651: Jason Lengstorf on CodeTV.dev, DevRel Panic, and Spicy Gear

Oh, dog. And I don't like that either. Hey there, You are listening to another episode of the shop talk show, podcast about about 650 freaking ones that messed it up about web design development. I'm Dave Rupert with me, it's Chris Square. Hey, Chris. How are you doing, Dave? Glad to be here. I I've flawless intro for six fifty one here. We're doing great. Wouldn't rather be anywhere else. Beautiful time here. We have a special guest this week. I I promised you we're gonna have guests, and here they are. See what I'm a man of my word. God dang it. It's Jason Langsdorf. Hey, Jason. How are you doing? What's happening? Thanks for having me. Good. Doing just fine. Perfect, really. This sorta start we saw a tweet from you just, like, a couple weeks ago. Just kinda wanted to be on some podcast, and I was like, I know that guy. We should get him. What was the last episode he was on? Wasn't on one, apparently. Sorry about that, bud. I wasn't trying to snub you there. We just that just hasn't happened yet. It isn't it's it's funny because I feel like I'm friends with a lot of people who all make content, and then I'll realize that I've never reached out to them about anything. I'm like, how how have I known you for this long and we've, like, never made anything together? It's been a it's been a long time, man. It's not like we made nothing together Way back in the CSS Tricks days. You you were, like, my first foray into, publicly doing anything. You you published my first article? Hell, yeah. That's awesome. Yeah. And look at what happens, people. You hear that? You work with me, you're gonna be a star. That's what they say. I make country music stars. And you, you cut your teeth on, like, Gatsby stuff. Right? Am I and then So I I've, Dave, I've been around a long time. I I well, you're in Austin at IBM. Right? And then and then And before that, I ran a web agency for, like, ten years. Oh, I didn't know that part. So, yeah, I I got my start doing Flash websites. Oh, exciting. I was, like, building custom MySpace pages for my band and stuff. And then I I realized that if I learned Flash, I could embed our music on the web page without letting people download the music. And I was like, ah, this seems like a thing worth learning as a musician. And that sort of kicked off the the that, and then I needed the band to be able to make updates. So I learned PHP and MySQL and then got into WordPress because trying to roll your own CMS is a terrible idea. And then, pitched Chris an article on rolling your own CMS, and we hit the front page dig on CSS tricks. And then everybody …