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Say Yes Before You’re Ready and Figure It Out Later with Vera Stewart

19 min episode · 2 min read
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Vera Stewart

Episode

19 min

Read time

2 min

Topics

Startups, Sales & Revenue, Psychology & Behavior

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Key Takeaways

  • Say Yes First, Figure Out the Rest Later: When the Bobby Flay show called asking if Stewart was a carrot cake expert, she said yes immediately, reasoning she would become the expert by the time it mattered. Committing before full preparation forces resourcefulness and opens doors that hesitation permanently closes.
  • Relaxed Assertive Confidence vs. Arrogance: Blount distinguishes assertiveness — assuming yes, making direct requests, projecting calm certainty — from arrogance. Framing requests as statements rather than apologetic questions ("Can we put the truck there Wednesday?" not "Would you mind if maybe...") dramatically increases the rate of positive responses.
  • Rainmaker vs. Rain Barrel Mindset: During the 2020 pandemic, one group of salespeople broke all-time company records while another barely survived. The difference: rainmakers adapted their approach and expanded their pipeline using virtual tools, while rain barrels waited passively for conditions to return to normal.
  • Pitch the Other Person's Win, Not Your Own: When Stewart approached WSAV Savannah for syndication, she led with the station's revenue opportunity — eight sellable commercial slots per episode — rather than her own credentials. Centering the conversation on the other party's measurable gain is what converted the pitch into a deal.

What It Covers

Jeb Blount interviews entrepreneur Vera Stewart, who built a syndicated cooking show and catering brand by defaulting to yes before feeling ready, using assertive confidence to create opportunities others walked past.

Key Questions Answered

  • Say Yes First, Figure Out the Rest Later: When the Bobby Flay show called asking if Stewart was a carrot cake expert, she said yes immediately, reasoning she would become the expert by the time it mattered. Committing before full preparation forces resourcefulness and opens doors that hesitation permanently closes.
  • Relaxed Assertive Confidence vs. Arrogance: Blount distinguishes assertiveness — assuming yes, making direct requests, projecting calm certainty — from arrogance. Framing requests as statements rather than apologetic questions ("Can we put the truck there Wednesday?" not "Would you mind if maybe...") dramatically increases the rate of positive responses.
  • Rainmaker vs. Rain Barrel Mindset: During the 2020 pandemic, one group of salespeople broke all-time company records while another barely survived. The difference: rainmakers adapted their approach and expanded their pipeline using virtual tools, while rain barrels waited passively for conditions to return to normal.
  • Pitch the Other Person's Win, Not Your Own: When Stewart approached WSAV Savannah for syndication, she led with the station's revenue opportunity — eight sellable commercial slots per episode — rather than her own credentials. Centering the conversation on the other party's measurable gain is what converted the pitch into a deal.

Notable Moment

Stewart planned 24 episodes after a local station offered only six, then pursued syndication despite being told it typically takes five years — landing her first syndicated market and never losing a single station since.

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Episode Transcript

This is the Sales Gravy Podcast. Hi. I'm Jeb Blunt, best selling author of fanatical prospecting, objections, sales EQ, and inked, and I'm here to help you open more doors, close bigger deals, and rock your commission check. Welcome back to another episode of the Sales Gravy Podcast. On this episode, I'm with Vera Stewart who is a celebrity. She is an insane cook. She's a southern lady who loves the Georgia bulldogs, and we're gonna be talking about what it takes to be an entrepreneur and grow a business and something that most salespeople are totally interested in. How it what it's like to just not take no as an answer and how that helped. I would say that the difference often between someone who is able to go to the next level in their business and those who don't are that there's something inside of you that recognizes that there's an opportunity in that moment. Don't mess it up. Mhmm. Like, take advantage of it. If you gotta go a little bit harder, go a little bit further. If the governor says, hey. Can you show up and do the luncheon? You don't go, look. I'm really busy today. You just you go because you recognize there's something there. And when I look back at, like, the early part of building sales gravy in this business, there were so many moments like that where if I'd gone the different direction, we wouldn't have had that opportunity. And I'm I'm curious from your standpoint. Do you see it that way? Like, because I because I wanna read your history. I'm like, this happened, and she took advantage of it versus letting it just slip by her. Well and, you know, I think sometimes people relate nervousness and, you know, being scared and and not feeling confident that, you know, if you if you take that leap of faith and you get comfortable with that, you know, knot in your stomach or whatever it may be, you find out that you can accomplish that. But if you don't take that leap of faith, you don't know. I mean, you know, honestly, fast forward a little bit and I get this call from what was posed as the cooking channel that I knew was new coming behind the Food Network. And they said, would you consider yourself an expert on carrot cake? Well, she coulda asked me on elephant cake, and I would've said yes because I figured by the time I need to be an expert, I'll be an expert. You know? So I wasn't about to say no. And as it turned out, it was a hoax and it was throw down with Bobby Flay. And, you know, just in that moment, seeing him standing there and knowing that I was getting ready to be in a competition, the first thought in my head was I'm gonna beat him. I'm gonna win. You know? And and that's why, you …

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