Resist and Unsubscribe with Gov. Tim Walz

What It Covers

Recorded live at the Pantages Theatre in Minneapolis, Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway host Minnesota Governor Tim Walz to discuss the ICE raids on Minnesota, Democratic Party strategy, and corporate resistance. Scott Galloway presents data on his Resist and Unsubscribe campaign, which has driven nearly 2 million site visits without spending a single dollar on advertising.

Key Questions Answered

• •Community-led resistance: When ICE operations targeted Minneapolis, the most effective response came from organic community organizing, not elected officials. Parent-teacher organizations became protective networks, residents surrounded schools, and street-level mobilization ultimately made the operation politically costly. Walz advises other governors facing similar situations to follow the organic leadership already emerging rather than attempting to direct or coordinate it from above.
• •Economic strikes as political leverage: Scott Galloway's Resist and Unsubscribe campaign demonstrates that subscription cancellations create disproportionate market damage. When T-Mobile missed subscriber additions by just 11,000 accounts, it lost $30 billion in market cap. Canceling one subscription and posting about it on social media with a modest social following translates to roughly $38,000–$40,000 in market cap damage to companies trading at 40 times revenue.
• •Collective CEO action as the missing lever: Individual CEOs resist speaking out because being first carries real risk — the US government is the largest customer in the world and can punish non-compliant companies. The solution requires organizing 50 or more Fortune 500 CEOs to issue a joint statement on constitutional norms. Galloway argues that Anthropic's annual recurring revenue growing from $14 billion to $19 billion after pushback signals that resistance has commercial upside.
• •Democratic Party accountability gap: Walz argues Democrats lose credibility by sending strongly worded letters instead of delivering tangible results. His 2023 Minnesota legislative session — passing paid family leave, child tax credit expansion, free school meals, and cannabis legalization — demonstrates the model: win a trifecta, then immediately deliver on specific promises voters can directly connect to improvements in their daily lives, rather than defending institutional processes.
• •Fraud versus corruption distinction: Republicans attempt to equate Minnesota's Feeding Our Future food program fraud with ICE-related abuses, but Walz draws a clear line. The food fraud involved criminals stealing from programs, who were caught and jailed by Minnesota's own systems. The ICE operations involved government officials directing unconstitutional actions against residents. Conflating the two obscures accountability and is used to justify dismantling social programs rather than improving oversight.
• •Rule of threes for male social engagement: Galloway presents a framework he uses when coaching young men: work out at least three times per week, spend at least 30 hours weekly working outside the home, and place yourself among strangers in a community context — a nonprofit, class, or religious group — at least three times per month. He cites data showing 45% of men aged 18–22 have never asked someone out in person, linking male isolation to OnlyFans growth and declining offline social risk-taking.