Jane Fonda on How to Turn Rage Into Hope: On with Kara Swisher

Hi, everyone. This is Pivot from New York Magazine and the Vox Media Podcast Network. I'm Kara Swisher. We're off for the holiday today, but we have something very special for you. My Jane Fonda interview on On with Kara Swisher. We talk about how to fight for democracy and the environment when both are under attack. She breaks down her PACS electoral strategy and explains why the voices of artists matter and how to use action to beat back depression and despair. And she shares a couple of secrets for living well at any age. I was so depressed, and then I said, fuck it. I said, I'm gonna make a difference. It's on. Hi, everyone. From New York Magazine and the Vox Media Podcast Network, this is On with Kara Swisher, and I'm Kara Swisher. My guest today is legendary actor and activist Jane Fonda. Over the past five decades, Jane has fought for peace, civil rights, indigenous rights, women's rights, and the environment among others. And Jane is fighting harder than ever. She recently relaunched the committee for the first amendment. She's been outspoken in her defense of democracy against the threat of Trumpist authoritarianism, and her political action committee, the Jane Fonda Climate Pack, has helped elect over 200 candidates across the country. I'm excited to talk to her because I'm exhausted and she's not, and therefore, I can't be. One of the things about Jane Fonda is she was very right during Vietnam, and she's very right now. She's always been on the cutting edge of things. And most importantly, as opposed to a lot of people from Hollywood, which you feel kind of is a mile wide and a foot deep, she really walks the talk and does do activism in a way that I think is very effective and is part of, you know, the broader culture of people in Hollywood and celebrities doing it, but she's incredibly effective. Our expert question comes from someone else I really like, Chelsea Handler, who Jane did a solid for once, and you can hear about that soon. Jane isn't just a legend. She's an inspiration. So stick around. Around. Hi. This is Bella Freud. I'm the host of Fashion Neurosis. This week on the show, Esther Perel is on my couch. Erotic recovery is part of trauma healing. God. That's interesting. It's not the reward at the end. Yeah. That's the difference. And I think we both come together around that construct. Yeah. Find fashion neurosis on YouTube or wherever you get your podcasts. What does it really mean to be a neighbor? It's just everyday people. You know, it's just people who are retired. They have a couple hours in the afternoon, so they're gonna do patrols. And it's people who are, you know, real estate agents, you know, driving around, like, trying to track how ICE is moving and alert neighbors when things are not safe. The rise of mutual aid in times …