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Unlocking AGI: How Life Changes for Everyone w/ Jack Hidary, Salim Ismail & Dave Blundin | EP #213

32 min episode · 2 min read
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Unlocking Agi

Episode

32 min

Read time

2 min

Topics

Productivity, Health & Wellness, Startups

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Key Takeaways

  • Energy abundance timeline: Current four-year wait times for gas turbines create temporary scarcity, but by 2030 small modular reactors, improved solar efficiency beyond 27 percent, and expanded turbine production will flip global energy from scarcity to abundance, fundamentally reshaping geopolitics and economics.
  • Desalination and healthcare impact: Abundant energy makes desalination economically viable at scale, providing fresh water that eliminates 50 percent of hospital bed occupancy in Africa caused by waterborne infections and diseases, freeing massive healthcare resources while improving population health across developing regions.
  • Robot manufacturing inflection: Five factories where robots build robots are under construction in US and China, launching within 18 months. Combined with LLM-powered intelligence replacing traditional programming, this enables production scaling toward millions of units at 20,000 dollar price points or 500 dollar monthly leases.
  • Quantum computing deadline: By 2030, quantum computers will break current public key encryption including WhatsApp, blockchain, and cryptocurrency security while simultaneously enabling molecular-level drug design and fusion reactor plasma modeling, accelerating fusion energy development by 10 to 20 years through superior simulation capabilities.

What It Covers

Peter Diamandis, Salim Ismail, Dave Blundin, and Jack Hidary discuss three transformative technology domains: the shift from energy scarcity to abundance by 2030, humanoid robotics scaling to billions of units, and quantum computing reaching practical utility within five years.

Key Questions Answered

  • Energy abundance timeline: Current four-year wait times for gas turbines create temporary scarcity, but by 2030 small modular reactors, improved solar efficiency beyond 27 percent, and expanded turbine production will flip global energy from scarcity to abundance, fundamentally reshaping geopolitics and economics.
  • Desalination and healthcare impact: Abundant energy makes desalination economically viable at scale, providing fresh water that eliminates 50 percent of hospital bed occupancy in Africa caused by waterborne infections and diseases, freeing massive healthcare resources while improving population health across developing regions.
  • Robot manufacturing inflection: Five factories where robots build robots are under construction in US and China, launching within 18 months. Combined with LLM-powered intelligence replacing traditional programming, this enables production scaling toward millions of units at 20,000 dollar price points or 500 dollar monthly leases.
  • Quantum computing deadline: By 2030, quantum computers will break current public key encryption including WhatsApp, blockchain, and cryptocurrency security while simultaneously enabling molecular-level drug design and fusion reactor plasma modeling, accelerating fusion energy development by 10 to 20 years through superior simulation capabilities.

Notable Moment

Jeff Markley attempted to purchase five gigawatt generators for a quantum data center but found them completely sold out, forcing him to buy every available three gigawatt unit plus one million valves preemptively, illustrating the severe infrastructure constraints facing AI expansion.

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Episode Transcript

What does Sandbox AQ do and what do you think about quantum computing? Sandbox AQ, a for AIQ for quantum, this is ultimately the twin engines of the transformation of our society. What technology has done for us is model our world and then be able to change our world using the data from that modeling. The AI and quantum coming together gives us a new superpower, and it's it's upon us in the next four or five years. 2030 is my prediction where I think we'll have the kind of impact that is business impact, societal impact. It's not gonna be winner takes all. These non intuitive, non human domains, the AI with the training data is just as good or better there. It's not replacing humans. It's adding things that we otherwise Once the capability is there, we'll have an explosion of imagination. Is there gonna be that that moment where people go, oh, my God? I think it's gonna be when Now that's the moonshot, ladies and gentlemen. Hi, everybody. Welcome to our moonshots episode. We're gonna be recording an episode here in Riyadh at FII nine of our moonshots podcast. I'm very pleased to be joined by our moonshot mates, Salim Ismail, the head of EXO. Salim, welcome. Thank you. Let's give it up for Salim Ismail, everybody. Where do you want? Alright. Right here. Dave Blunden, my other moonshot mate. Give it up for Dave Blunden, Dave. Okay. Alright, buddy. And as a special guest, we have here Jack Hittery, the CEO of Sandbox AQ. Jack, bring it up. Jack, I am always I can always count on you to bring the hat. And the energy. And the energy. And the energy. For sure. Let's do it. A fusion power source. Let's do it. So in our moonshot conversation today, gentlemen, I wanna cover three subjects. I want you to bring all of it to the table. Don't hold back. We're in the middle of this incredible location with 6,000 of our closest friends. Quick question. How many of you in the audience have listened to the podcast? Just just your fans? Alright. Woah. A lot of fans. A lot of fans. That's amazing. Okay. So this is a conversation on three subjects today. The first is energy. The second is robotics, and we're gonna wrap up because we've got Jack here on quantum. So let's begin with, with energy. Question ultimately is what do we do with abundant energy? And let me just, look at my notes here one moment. So today, China has added 429 gigawatts of new power in 2024. As opposed to The US at 51 gigawatts of power, there is an electron gap that's significant. We're seeing the emergence of small module reactors, SMRs. We're seeing, basically, corporations going out and buying their own nuclear power sources, investing in Gen four fission, investing in fusion. By my last count, there's 37 fusion backed or 37 fusion VC backed companies that …

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