Risk and Reward with Marek Capital Co-Founder Matt Cherwin
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59 min
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Investing, Startups, Fundraising & VC
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Key Takeaways
- ✓MCCLR Framework: Cherwin structures every investment decision through five lenses — money, capital, credit, liquidity, and regulation — arguing these five forces drive all economies, markets, and prices. Applying this lens reveals cross-market mispricings that narrowly mandated institutional investors systematically miss, creating exploitable gaps across rates, mortgages, ABS, CLOs, and corporate credit simultaneously.
- ✓Financial System Disaggregation: The traditional bank model has effectively been re-split along Glass-Steagall lines. GSIBs like JPMorgan hold deposits safely while firms like Apollo, Blackstone, and Ares now make the majority of credit extension decisions. Traders like Citadel Securities handle market-making. Recognizing which entity controls which function reveals where credit pricing dislocations originate and persist.
- ✓Trophy Office CRE Mispricing: Merrick identifies trophy-quality office buildings in gateway cities — New York, Miami, DC, San Francisco — as triple-B rated bonds that fundamentally perform as double-A credits. New GSIB firms (Apollo, KKR, Ares) are growing rapidly, face a genuine supply shortage of premium space, and occupy these buildings at near 100% occupancy despite broad market pessimism.
- ✓Financing Flywheel Underestimation: When rates fall and credit spreads tighten simultaneously, asset values rise, loan-to-value ratios improve, and refinancing costs drop further — compounding in a self-reinforcing cycle. Cherwin argues markets consistently underestimate the magnitude of this flywheel effect, and Merrick positions roughly 20 thematic trades to capture successive ripple effects rather than single-point price moves.
- ✓Liability-First Risk Management: Cherwin frames portfolio survival around liabilities, not assets, stating firms fail because of their liability structure before their assets deteriorate. Merrick uses stress-based scenario frameworks — including rate shocks, credit crunches, and flight-to-quality events — as starting points for attribution conversations rather than treating VAR or DV01 figures as definitive risk answers.
What It Covers
Matt Cherwin, co-founder and CIO of Merrick Capital, explains how sixteen years at JPMorgan Chase — including a front-row seat to the 2019 repo crisis and the COVID-era financial system — shaped a proprietary MCCLR framework (money, capital, credit, liquidity, regulation) now applied across a multi-asset credit hedge fund launched in 2024.
Key Questions Answered
- •MCCLR Framework: Cherwin structures every investment decision through five lenses — money, capital, credit, liquidity, and regulation — arguing these five forces drive all economies, markets, and prices. Applying this lens reveals cross-market mispricings that narrowly mandated institutional investors systematically miss, creating exploitable gaps across rates, mortgages, ABS, CLOs, and corporate credit simultaneously.
- •Financial System Disaggregation: The traditional bank model has effectively been re-split along Glass-Steagall lines. GSIBs like JPMorgan hold deposits safely while firms like Apollo, Blackstone, and Ares now make the majority of credit extension decisions. Traders like Citadel Securities handle market-making. Recognizing which entity controls which function reveals where credit pricing dislocations originate and persist.
- •Trophy Office CRE Mispricing: Merrick identifies trophy-quality office buildings in gateway cities — New York, Miami, DC, San Francisco — as triple-B rated bonds that fundamentally perform as double-A credits. New GSIB firms (Apollo, KKR, Ares) are growing rapidly, face a genuine supply shortage of premium space, and occupy these buildings at near 100% occupancy despite broad market pessimism.
- •Financing Flywheel Underestimation: When rates fall and credit spreads tighten simultaneously, asset values rise, loan-to-value ratios improve, and refinancing costs drop further — compounding in a self-reinforcing cycle. Cherwin argues markets consistently underestimate the magnitude of this flywheel effect, and Merrick positions roughly 20 thematic trades to capture successive ripple effects rather than single-point price moves.
- •Liability-First Risk Management: Cherwin frames portfolio survival around liabilities, not assets, stating firms fail because of their liability structure before their assets deteriorate. Merrick uses stress-based scenario frameworks — including rate shocks, credit crunches, and flight-to-quality events — as starting points for attribution conversations rather than treating VAR or DV01 figures as definitive risk answers.
Notable Moment
On his third day running JPMorgan's CIO group in late 2019, Cherwin authorized lending against Treasuries at 10% overnight — a rate he immediately recognized as extraordinary. That repo market seizure, followed within months by the pandemic, became the catalyst that reframed his entire twenty-year trading career.
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