Three Current Modern Management Scams - Part 2
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2 min
Topics
Productivity, Leadership, Psychology & Behavior
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Key Takeaways
- ✓Engagement Survey Anonymity Flaw: Engagement surveys aggregate anonymous responses without filtering by job performance, meaning one disgruntled employee on a four-person team skews 25% of a manager's score. High performers and poor performers carry equal weight, making results statistically misleading and managerially unactionable for individual team leaders.
- ✓Feedback Dialogue Targets Only Negatives: Proponents of feedback-as-conversation apply the dialogue model exclusively to negative feedback, ignoring positive feedback entirely. This asymmetry reveals a fundamental misunderstanding of feedback's purpose. Manager Tools data across 975,000 observed managers on six continents shows positive feedback drives more behavioral change than negative correction.
- ✓Manager Tools Feedback Model Efficiency: The Manager Tools feedback model takes under 15 seconds: ask permission, name the behavior, state the impact, request change. At 99.7% effectiveness across collected data, this approach allows five to seven correction opportunities in the time a single 20-minute feedback conversation would consume, compounding behavioral improvement faster.
- ✓Reinforcing Intent Backfires Psychologically: Examining a direct's reasoning after a mistake — even when intent was reasonable — psychologically reinforces the thought patterns that produced the bad outcome. Psychological research confirms that revisiting valid-seeming intentions strengthens them, making the same mistake more likely to recur rather than correcting future behavior.
- ✓Engagement Survey Results Rarely Drive Improvement: Across an estimated 10,000–20,000 Manager Tools community members who participated in engagement surveys, only one manager was recognized for high scores and asked to share methods with others. Organizations use surveys to identify low scorers and issue warnings, not to replicate successful management practices across teams.
What It Covers
Manager Tools hosts Mark and Sarah critique three widespread management practices — generational management, engagement surveys, and feedback-as-dialogue — arguing these approaches lack data support, waste manager time, and actively undermine individual performance accountability across organizations of all sizes and industries.
Key Questions Answered
- •Engagement Survey Anonymity Flaw: Engagement surveys aggregate anonymous responses without filtering by job performance, meaning one disgruntled employee on a four-person team skews 25% of a manager's score. High performers and poor performers carry equal weight, making results statistically misleading and managerially unactionable for individual team leaders.
- •Feedback Dialogue Targets Only Negatives: Proponents of feedback-as-conversation apply the dialogue model exclusively to negative feedback, ignoring positive feedback entirely. This asymmetry reveals a fundamental misunderstanding of feedback's purpose. Manager Tools data across 975,000 observed managers on six continents shows positive feedback drives more behavioral change than negative correction.
- •Manager Tools Feedback Model Efficiency: The Manager Tools feedback model takes under 15 seconds: ask permission, name the behavior, state the impact, request change. At 99.7% effectiveness across collected data, this approach allows five to seven correction opportunities in the time a single 20-minute feedback conversation would consume, compounding behavioral improvement faster.
- •Reinforcing Intent Backfires Psychologically: Examining a direct's reasoning after a mistake — even when intent was reasonable — psychologically reinforces the thought patterns that produced the bad outcome. Psychological research confirms that revisiting valid-seeming intentions strengthens them, making the same mistake more likely to recur rather than correcting future behavior.
- •Engagement Survey Results Rarely Drive Improvement: Across an estimated 10,000–20,000 Manager Tools community members who participated in engagement surveys, only one manager was recognized for high scores and asked to share methods with others. Organizations use surveys to identify low scorers and issue warnings, not to replicate successful management practices across teams.
Notable Moment
An NFL team struggling with player resistance to video review sessions reversed its approach — shifting from cataloging errors to emphasizing correct plays — and subsequently won a Super Bowl. The league now mandates this positive-first model across all 32 teams, validating feedback prioritization through measurable competitive outcomes.
Episode Transcript
Welcome to manager tools. This is Sarah. And I'm Mark. Today's podcast, three current modern management scams, part two of two. As always, our content has been crafted by humans and is now certified by the Proudly Human Corporation. The questions this cast answers are, how can I tell what popular management guidance to follow? What is Manager Tools' opinion of generational man? Should I have a dialogue with my directs when I give negative feedback? Are engagement surveys a good idea? If you want answers to these questions and more, keep listening. We know you're busy. Finding time to listen to every episode just isn't always realistic, and going back to find a specific piece of guidance can feel like looking for a needle in a haystack. Manager tools licensees never have that problem. Every time a new episode drops, we send them the full show notes directly to their inbox complete with key takeaways and action items. They can review the highlights in minutes, forward relevant sections to their team, and keep a searchable archive right there when they need it. Email show notes are just one of the many powerful benefits that come with being a manager tools licensee. Visit us online today at manager-tools.com/memberships to find out everything a license has to offer. So how do we know that employees who say they're engaged actually are engaged? Well, I mean, you probably guessed it by now, folks. We don't. We don't. In many cases, the engagement industry surveys no longer ask how engaged the employee is. They only ask about what their workplace experience is. And from that, which again has to be different for all of the different surveys because you don't wanna infringe on someone else's survey. From that, the survey then infers the employee's level of, again, this ill defined engagement. How convenient for the survey writer. Here's something else, folks, and this should strike you. Engagement surveys don't discriminate based on job performance. When surveys are taken and processed and returned to the corporate client, it's all anonymous. You don't get to know whether your best employees feel engaged or your worst ones do or don't. So, sure, it's an assumption, but it's not data. And because you don't get individual responses, and we respect that from the point of anonymity if that's what you're trying to get to, not that anonymity is always good. And in this case, I don't believe it is. It's not data. It really isn't data. It's an assumption is really what it boils down to. It's it's a problematic assumption. Because, I mean, if you got a really large team, yay you, not a problem. But if you have four employees, one very disgruntled employee who may be in or on their way to a performance improvement plan, and you would be delighted to be allowed to let that person go, for example, their survey results count for 25 of your engagement score. And now, despite …
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