OpenAI’s Head of ChatGPT: We’re entering a new era of AI (again) | Tibo Sottiaux

Often when I look at what people are building out there, it's just like, you're not quite getting it. You know, if you were just, like, pushing yourself and just really imagining, like, all of this being roughly 10 times better than it is today, you know, like, a year, you would build in a different way. What do you think people aren't pricing in in terms of where things are going? The majority of actions on the Internet will be taken by agents. If you want your product to be successful for agents, you have to build, you know, for a certain level of scale. How many agents do you find yourself running in parallel just in the in the kind of your day to day work? As I'm pushing the frontier, I find myself like building larger and larger teams of agents. And then when we have the next breakthrough with models, like suddenly it's just a kind of like, oh, well, know, a bigger agent can just do all of it. And so I kind of shrink the team again. And then it just kind of goes through this expansion and shrinking expansion. It kinda makes me think about there's this whole loops thing and then this whole graphs thing. Having to set up and fiddle with your loops is something that maybe people got excited about, but I don't think this is the way that it's going to work. Over time, you just want the system that learns. You don't want to necessarily think about, oh, I was just thinking I'm gonna loop it exactly this way in order to get results. Do you think there's still more radical change happening to how we work? It's going to continue to change quite radically. Even today, it still feels like a bit clunky, I and think it will feel clunky until it isn't. Deepa, thank you for doing this. Yeah. Thanks for having me. Of course. Nice room. You launched a a ton of stuff today. How... How's your sleep? How are you sleeping? Are you doing alright? I'm doing great. I'm fortunate to have a very good team. Mhmm. So while I sleep, they were awake most of the night. We have this amazing room at the office called the library, which we completely repurposed as like a mega war room, and the vibes in there are just immaculate. People were there until, like, very, very late. So you've been a long time engineer. Are you are you coding at all anymore? Are you shipping PRs? Are you mostly, like, in docs and and meetings now? What is coding? Exact... Yeah. Are you shipping PRs? I don't know. Is that is Yeah. Yeah. Merging some code every once in a while. Technically, like, a lot of code is getting written for me to do all sorts of kinds of, like, analysis, like, you know, understand, like, trends, understand the business, understand the next feature, you know, …