Steve Yegge's Vibe Coding Manifesto: Why Claude Code Isn't It & What Comes After the IDE

We are here live at AI Engineer Summit with Steve Yaghi, the legendary Steve Yaghi of Steve's tech talks, Steve's platforms brands, and most recently, Sourcegraph and AMP. Welcome. And most recently, Vibe Coding. I should've That's right. The Vibe Coding book. So this is the big Vibe Coding discussion. In the pre chat, we were discussing the intersection of Vibe Coding and AI engineering. So we got the kind of movement leaders of both sides here. How do you see it? It's absolutely a movement. Right? You gotta get people behind it. I mean, there's a I said at the end of my talk today that there's a huge backlash, and the backlash is only just brewing now. So you and I are pushing forward, right, on on these waves of, you know, AI engineering is about is about building AI enabled applications and being being in AI, and vibe coding is about abandoning the old ways of producing software and embracing the new ways. Right? And both of these, are making people pretty mad. Right? I don't I think they're mad if their identity is tied to the way that they work today with no changes no room for changes. Yeah. So I'll start with my first hot take. K. Let's go. There is a demographic that is the most affected by that. Their identity is the most tied up with the way that they work. Okay. It's not junior engineers. It's not mod engineers. They're all vibe coding. It's senior engineers, senior leaders, people who have so basically, you can you can narrow it down to twelve to fifteen years of experience. They hate Vibe coding, and they hate AI, and they're online going, my fifteen years is better than that AI. K? Now you saw I don't know if you saw Jordan Hubbard's post from NVIDIA where he just laid out some really nice advice on how to get the most out of agents as you're coding. And this guy posted and he's like, yeah. You know, no. You you stick with your doing your director stuff and leave the programming to programmers. Right? When you have fifteen years of experience like me, then Then you're qualified to talk. Right? Right? So I said something to him, like, I think you need to learn to read a clock. And he's like, until you have fifteen years of experience, and I'm like Well, you got more experience than him. More. I have 45. So should I, like, go to 60 before I can talk to you, or should I, like, cut out thirty years of experience so I can be as dumb as you? Right? Those are my options. And, so I don't know. I guess I'll see him in fifteen years. I I so okay. I think there's one element that I'm trying to figure out of well, these people have to coexist. Right? And most companies are gonna have a mix. Even OpenAI, by the …