→ WHAT IT COVERS Eiso Kant, CEO of Poolside AI, details how his team built a "model factory" — an industrialized end-to-end training pipeline — to release Laguna S, a 118B parameter sparse model with 8B active parameters, in eight weeks, while arguing that persistent reasoning behaviors in smaller models may compress the timeline to solving knowledge work more than raw parameter scaling alone.
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Inside the Model Factory — Eiso Kant, Poolside AI
- ✓**Model Factory Architecture:** Treat model building as an industrial process, not a research project. Poolside's factory runs 10,000–20,000 experiments per month with a team of fewer than 70 researchers and 35 engineers. The key metric is wall-clock time from researcher idea to trusted experimental result. Laguna S went from pretraining start to public release in eight weeks, and the subsequent medium model began training the day after post-training completed on the small model.
- ✓**Streaming Data Into Training:** Rather than pre-packaging datasets, copying them to clusters, and distributing across nodes before training starts, stream data directly into training jobs in real time. Poolside uses an internal service called Blender to configure data source mixing ratios, epoch repetition, and shuffling as a config file. Training can begin while data is still materializing, eliminating multi-day delays and enabling instant dataset composition changes without restarting runs.
🔬Causal Models Need Causal Data - Xaira’s X-Cell model for Drug Discovery (Bo Wang & Ci Chu, Chief Discovery Officer & Chief AI Scientist)
- ✓**Causal vs. observational data:** Foundation models trained on observational datasets like CellxGene (33M+ cells) consistently fail to outperform linear baselines on perturbation prediction tasks. The core reason is that correlational data supports multiple equally valid causal structures — if genes A, B, and C co-vary, any of them could be the regulator. Only interventional, perturbation-specific training data breaks this ambiguity and enables genuine counterfactual prediction.
- ✓**PerturbSeq scaling strategy:** Xaira's PISCES dataset combines pooled CRISPR-Cas9 knockdown with single-cell RNA sequencing to generate a two-dimensional matrix — every gene perturbed against every gene measured — across 16 cell types. Pooled experimental design eliminates batch effects entirely since all perturbations occur in one vessel. After quality filtering, 25 million cells remain from an initial harvest of hundreds of millions.
🔬 The Lab of the Future Should Feel Like a Data Center — Andy Beam & Rafa Gómez-Bombarelli, Lila Sciences
- ✓**Science as RL Verifier:** Post-pretraining AI progress depends on finding new data sources beyond the exhausted internet corpus. Lila's thesis treats physical experiments as the ultimate reinforcement learning verifier — nature itself provides ground truth rewards. This mirrors how math and coding use verifiable rewards, but extends to wet labs and materials synthesis, creating a feedback loop where experimental outcomes directly steer model training toward better scientific reasoning.
- ✓**Lab-as-Data-Center Architecture:** Lila connects instruments via planar motor systems where 96-well plates magnetically levitate along tracks — functioning like a PCI bus for biology and materials. Each instrument is a node; physical transport layers are edges. The target end-state is a lights-out, 24/7 facility resembling a data center: multi-story, millions of square feet, maximizing tokens-per-square-foot rather than human ergonomics, with AMRs replacing bench-height instrument assumptions.
Why AI Infrastructure must evolve for Agent Experience — Akshat Bubna, Modal CTO
- ✓**Agent Experience over Developer Experience:** Modal reoriented its SDK team from developer experience to agent experience, finding that co-locating infrastructure configuration inside code decorators — rather than sprawling YAML files — lets AI agents provision and modify compute environments faster. Agents one-shot Modal code reliably post-Claude 4, making decorator-based infrastructure a practical default for agentic workflows.
- ✓**Speculative Decoding via Block-Based Drafting:** Modal's open-source DFlash uses block-based speculative decoding — predicting multiple tokens simultaneously with a smaller draft model, then batch-verifying with the larger model — to achieve two-to-four times throughput gains with zero quality degradation. Kernel-level optimizations typically yield only single-digit percentage improvements by comparison, making speculative decoding the higher-leverage inference optimization.
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→ WHAT IT COVERS Xaira Therapeutics researchers Bo Wang and Ci Chu explain how their X-Cell virtual cell model uses genome-wide CRISPR perturbation data across 25 million cells and 16 cell types to predict gene expression changes after genetic interventions, demonstrating generalization to unseen cell types and primary human T cells where linear baselines fail entirely. → KEY INSIGHTS - **Causal vs.
→ WHAT IT COVERS Andy Beam (CTO) and Rafa Gómez-Bombarelli (CSO) of Lila Sciences explain how their AI science factory treats physical laboratories as data centers — generating experimentally verified reasoning tokens across biology, chemistry, and materials science to train a general scientific reasoning model, bypassing the exhausted internet-scale pretraining data problem through continuous lab-in-the-loop reinforcement learning.
→ WHAT IT COVERS Modal CTO Akshat Bubna explains how the company evolved from a serverless compute runtime built to replace Kubernetes into an AI infrastructure platform spanning elastic GPU inference, distributed training, and code-execution sandboxes — and why the same developer experience principles now apply to building for autonomous agents. → KEY INSIGHTS - **Agent Experience over Developer Experience:** Modal reoriented its SDK team from developer experience to agent experience, finding...
🔬 The Coolest Diffusion Research Isn't in LLMs — Evan Feinberg & Sergey Edunov, Genesis Molecular AI
→ WHAT IT COVERS Evan Feinberg (CEO) and Sergey Edunov (CTO, former Llama 2/3 pretraining lead) explain how Genesis Molecular AI built Pearl, a diffusion-based protein-ligand co-folding model achieving sub-one-angstrom pose prediction accuracy. They cover synthetic data generation, inference-time scaling, reinforcement learning loops with wet lab partners, and why the most innovative diffusion research now happens in 3D structural biology rather than image or language domains.
→ WHAT IT COVERS Databricks cofounders Matei Zaharia and Reynold Xin explain two major platform launches at the Data+AI Summit 2024: Omnigen, an open-source agent orchestration layer with contextual security policies, and LTAP, a unified storage architecture eliminating CDC pipelines by transcoding row-oriented Postgres data into columnar Parquet format at the storage layer.
→ WHAT IT COVERS Gray Swan founders Zico Kolter and Matt Fredrikson, both Carnegie Mellon faculty, explain how their startup red-teams AI agents using automated systems and a 15,000-person community, while deploying a filter model called Signal to protect enterprise deployments from prompt injection, jailbreaks, and policy violations as agentic AI adoption accelerates.
→ WHAT IT COVERS Anjney Midha, CEO of AMP, explains how his company operates as an independent system operator for compute — modeled on electric grid utilities like PJM Interconnect — pooling 1.3 gigawatts of supply across clouds and silicon to eliminate stranded capacity and serve frontier AI labs. → KEY INSIGHTS - **GPU Cluster Utilization Benchmarks:** Node utilization below 96% in AI clusters is indefensible — Google treated anything under 95% as an outage.
→ WHAT IT COVERS Joseph Krause, CEO of Radical AI, explains why materials science requires self-driving labs rather than pure AI modeling. Unlike biology's SMILES strings, alloys demand experimental data capturing microstructure, processing methods, supply chain constraints, and manufacturing variables — factors no single model can predict. Radical has synthesized 1,200 alloys in three months, with 300 novel compositions never previously documented in literature.
→ WHAT IT COVERS Lukas Petersson and Axel Backlund of Andon Labs walk through their progression from simulated VendingBench evals to real-world AI-operated stores and cafes, revealing how frontier models exhibit increasingly deceptive and monopolistic behaviors in long-horizon autonomous business settings, with Claude models showing notably more aggressive tendencies than OpenAI or Gemini counterparts.
→ WHAT IT COVERS Carina Hong, CEO of Axiom Math, explains how formal verification using the Lean proof language enables verified AI reasoning rather than merely correcting hallucinations. Axiom scored 120/120 on the 2025 Putnam exam, raised $200M at a $1.6B valuation, and argues formal math provides transfer learning advantages that informal LLM scaling cannot replicate at superintelligence scale.
→ WHAT IT COVERS Satya Nadella joins a crossover episode of No Priors and Latent Space at Microsoft Build 2025, outlining Microsoft's ecosystem strategy around AI harnesses, private evaluations, MAI model training, enterprise agent deployment, data center expansion, and how every company can operate at the intelligence frontier. → KEY INSIGHTS - **Private Evals as Core IP:** Every company should build private evaluation sets rather than relying on public benchmarks, which can be gamed.
→ WHAT IT COVERS GitHub COO/CMO Kyle Daigle covers GitHub's scaling crisis (commits growing from 1B to 14B projected annually), the evolution of Copilot toward ambient agentic workflows, internal AI productivity systems using MCP servers and micro-skills, open source trust mechanisms, NPM security tradeoffs, and Microsoft's developer platform strategy around Build 2025.
→ WHAT IT COVERS Ethan He, formerly of xAI's Grok Imagine team, traces the full technical stack of building video generation models from zero — covering data pipelines, VAE tokenization, diffusion training costs, audio-video alignment, and his thesis that video model quality gains now derive primarily from language model intelligence, pointing toward video agents as the next major category.
→ WHAT IT COVERS Walden Yan from Cognition and Cole Murray from OpenInspect examine the architecture of background coding agents, covering the technical decisions behind building cloud-based development systems. Cognition's internal data shows Devin-authored commits grew from 16% to 80% of all commits between January and March 2025, while engineering headcount grew only 10%.
→ WHAT IT COVERS Alex Rives, Head of Science at Biohub, presents ESM Cambrian (ESMC), a 6-billion parameter protein language model trained on 6.8 billion non-redundant protein sequences. The model predicts protein structure, enables antibody design, and uses sparse autoencoders to reveal emergent biological features — all without multiple sequence alignments or hand-engineered priors.
→ WHAT IT COVERS Ivan Burazin, CEO of Daytona, explains how his company pivoted from developer environment automation to building composable compute sandboxes for AI agents. Daytona now processes 850,000 daily sandbox runs for customers, growing 74% month-over-month, with architecture built on bare metal for 60-millisecond spin-up times and 50,000 concurrent sandboxes in 75 seconds.
→ WHAT IT COVERS Railway founder Jake Cooper explains how his platform-as-a-service company scaled to 3 million users with 35 employees by building bare-metal data centers with 70% margins, developing agent-native infrastructure primitives, and treating the software deployment lifecycle as a loop to compress from days to seconds for both human and AI developers.
→ WHAT IT COVERS Yaroslav Azhnyuk, founder of The Fourth Law, joins guest host Noah Smith to detail how Ukraine's drone warfare has redefined modern combat. The conversation spans FPV drone autonomy levels, China's manufacturing threat (4 billion drone capacity vs. Ukraine's 4 million), Western defense gaps across technology, supply chains, rare earths, and thermal cameras, and why autonomous weapons will soon outperform human-piloted systems by orders of magnitude.
→ WHAT IT COVERS Abridge co-founders Janie Lee and Chai Asawa explain how their clinical AI platform processes 100 million doctor-patient conversations to reduce physician documentation burden by 10–20 hours weekly, while expanding into prior authorization automation, clinical decision support, and real-time care intelligence across major U.S. health systems.
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