HIGHLIGHTS: Reid Hoffman - co-founder of LinkedIn

Hi, everybody. Tune in to this short version of the podcast, which we do every Friday. For the long version, tune in on Wednesdays. Hi, everyone. I'm Nicola Tangen, the CEO of the Norwegian Samoan Wealth Fund. And I'm here today with Reid Hoffman, who is the cofounder of LinkedIn, partner at Greylock, board member at Microsoft, and one of Silicon Valley's most influential thinkers. And today, we are basically going to talk about everything that's going on, AI, human potential, all the things you've been up to, Reid. So wonderful to have you here. It's great to be here. Now, Reid, you've seen, multiple tech cycles from, Web one zero to the current AI boom. Just how does it stack up compared to what you've seen before? Well, look, each new tech cycle, and even if you do a bit of history and you kinda go back to printing press and other kinds of things as as early versions of this, is new and impressive and builds upon the old. And part of the current, you know, AI, just, you know, massive acceleration, much bigger than much quicker, much larger, more impact than anything else is because it builds on the Internet. It builds on the cloud. It builds on, you know, kind of the massive amount of data we have and the massive amount of commute we have, which then makes it possible to build these amazing learning machines. And so I think it's obviously the largest, now in all large things, you know, you know, like in your industry, the discussion of, you know, is it is it a bubble? I don't think it is. If anything, I I don't think it's a bubble in the usual description of, you know, could it get to a collapse? But the impact upon all of society is probably gonna be the biggest of our lifetimes, and that's presuming that, you know, you and I have have have have at least a number of decades ahead of us. And and I think that's stunning because in industry and in life and in society, I think the fact that we have now made, like, learning machines as part of our firmament of the humanist world, the society, is is landmark. Where where are you, seeing the most kind of genuine massive transformation now, as opposed to experiments? Well, so, so the show one of the things I tell people, that's probably useful here too, is if you're not finding the current frontier models to be useful in some substantive way, like, for example, useful in your work, not just, you know, create a sonnet for your kid's birthday or, you know, take a picture of what's in your fridge and ask for what a recipe could be, which are great, but some substantive way, that involves information analysis, research, decision support, etcetera, then you're not trying hard enough. And in fact, you know, one of the things I think for the …