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272. What to Do If You’re 35+ and Feel Financially Behind with Jean Chatzky

50 min episode · 2 min read
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Jean Chatzky

Episode

50 min

Read time

2 min

Topics

Career Growth, Personal Finance, Investing

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Key Takeaways

  • Retirement savings hierarchy: Grab employer 401k match first for guaranteed returns, then tackle high-interest debt, max out remaining retirement accounts, utilize HSAs and 529s, and finally invest in discretionary brokerage accounts. This prioritization ensures tax-advantaged growth while eliminating costly debt that undermines wealth building over decades of compound growth.
  • Fidelity retirement benchmarks: Save 15% consistently to reach these targets: one times annual income by age 30, three times by 40, six times by 50, eight times by 60, and ten times by retirement. These benchmarks enable replacing 85% of pre-retirement income for a 30-year retirement, though exceeding 15% savings accelerates progress for late starters.
  • HSA triple tax advantage: Contributions are tax-deductible, growth is tax-free, and withdrawals for qualified medical expenses are untaxed. The strategy involves investing HSA funds while paying current medical expenses from checking, saving all receipts indefinitely to justify future tax-free withdrawals against decades of accumulated medical bills, including Medicare premiums in retirement.
  • Late-start retirement math: Working an additional three to six months at career end equals adding 1% to retirement savings for 30 years, due to higher late-career income. This makes delaying Social Security claiming especially critical for women with longer lifespans, maximizing both personal and survivor benefits rather than claiming early with permanently reduced payments.
  • Caregiving financial boundaries: Adult children caring for aging parents spend an average of $7,000 annually in unreimbursed expenses, equivalent to a full Roth IRA contribution. Prevent this by having advance conversations with parents about their retirement funding, coordinating sibling contributions of time or money, and avoiding the default where caregiving responsibilities and costs fall disproportionately on one child.

What It Covers

Financial journalist Jean Chatzky discusses strategies for women in their forties and fifties who feel financially behind. She shares her experience of starting over at 40 after divorce, job loss, and parent death, covering retirement savings benchmarks, HSA investing strategies, and navigating caregiving responsibilities while protecting retirement goals.

Key Questions Answered

  • Retirement savings hierarchy: Grab employer 401k match first for guaranteed returns, then tackle high-interest debt, max out remaining retirement accounts, utilize HSAs and 529s, and finally invest in discretionary brokerage accounts. This prioritization ensures tax-advantaged growth while eliminating costly debt that undermines wealth building over decades of compound growth.
  • Fidelity retirement benchmarks: Save 15% consistently to reach these targets: one times annual income by age 30, three times by 40, six times by 50, eight times by 60, and ten times by retirement. These benchmarks enable replacing 85% of pre-retirement income for a 30-year retirement, though exceeding 15% savings accelerates progress for late starters.
  • HSA triple tax advantage: Contributions are tax-deductible, growth is tax-free, and withdrawals for qualified medical expenses are untaxed. The strategy involves investing HSA funds while paying current medical expenses from checking, saving all receipts indefinitely to justify future tax-free withdrawals against decades of accumulated medical bills, including Medicare premiums in retirement.
  • Late-start retirement math: Working an additional three to six months at career end equals adding 1% to retirement savings for 30 years, due to higher late-career income. This makes delaying Social Security claiming especially critical for women with longer lifespans, maximizing both personal and survivor benefits rather than claiming early with permanently reduced payments.
  • Caregiving financial boundaries: Adult children caring for aging parents spend an average of $7,000 annually in unreimbursed expenses, equivalent to a full Roth IRA contribution. Prevent this by having advance conversations with parents about their retirement funding, coordinating sibling contributions of time or money, and avoiding the default where caregiving responsibilities and costs fall disproportionately on one child.

Notable Moment

Chatzky reveals that after restarting at 40, she saved excessively in regular bank accounts rather than investing, driven by a need to see growing balances that felt secure and untouchable. She acknowledges this safety-seeking behavior delayed her wealth building, requiring later course correction to rebuild proper asset allocation and market exposure despite her financial expertise.

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Episode Transcript

You've had the feeling in your forties and fifties that it's too late for you to save money, too late to prioritize your retirement, this episode is for you. Because the truth? Almost every woman, no matter her age, feels behind. I'm joined by the legendary Jean Chatsky, longtime financial journalist, best selling author, founder of HerMoney, and a woman whose work has shaped an entire generation of women's financial literacy, including my own. Jean has helped millions understand money more clearly. In today's episode, she opens up about her own story, starting over at 40 after a divorce, job loss, and the death of a parent, all in the same year. And she talks candidly about what she wishes she'd known earlier, what she's glad she prepared for, and why every woman needs to feel empowered to ask questions even when the answers feel overwhelming. But first, a word from our sponsors. You all have heard me say that my partner signed his first client with his business, his brand new business, and literally talked to him the other day. He is in talks about landing his second big client. And all of that happened because of his Squarespace website. Squarespace is so easy to use. I literally built him his website in a weekend. I don't know how to code. I don't know anything. But I can drag and drop, and you can drag and drop too. So if you're trying to design a beautiful website, Squarespace is the place to be. The other thing he's doing on Squarespace is that he can send emails to anybody that signs up who's interested through their email campaign tool, and he can also take payments directly through Squarespace. So he doesn't have to use and pay for, like, another payment processing service. Is already baked into Squarespace. Head on over to squarespace.com/ffpod for a free trial. And when you're ready to launch, you can use offer code f f pod to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain. This is literally the code that I told him to use, and he saved 10% off his website. So, Jean, you said that to, quote, own your life, you have to own your money. So for women navigating careers, caregiving, identity shifts in their forties and fifties, what is owning your money really look like, and why is it so important? At a very basic level, it means knowing what is coming in, what is going out, and where it's going. And you know most people have absolutely no idea. But unless you have a handle on that very, very basic a whether we choose to acknowledge it or not, money's a limited resource, and we've gotta make choices about how we wanna allocate those resources in order to get what we want most. And far too many of us just go through life spending unconsciously, not thinking about it, and then regretting the decisions that we made …

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