124: Leslie Cohn-Wein & Rafael Conde - Designing the User Interface at Netlify

In this episode of Fullstack Radio, I talked to Leslie Cohenwine and Rafael Konda about designing new features at Netlify. This is Fullstack Radio episode one twenty four. Hey, everyone. Welcome to another episode of the Fullstack Radio podcast. I'm your host, Adam Wadden. And today, it's my pleasure to be speaking with Leslie Kohnwein and Rafa Konda of Netlify who both, work on sort of the user interface at Netlify. So, for anyone who isn't familiar with either of you, do you mind introducing yourselves? Maybe Leslie start first. Sure. Hey, Hey, everyone. I'm Leslie Konewine. I am a front end engineer at Netlify. Sort of came, came to development through agency work. So previously, I was working on marketing marketing stuff for all kinds of fun clients, in New York City, and now based in Dallas, Texas and, work on all things sort of UX at Netlify. Awesome. What about you, Rafa? So, like yeah. Like I said, Rafa I go by Rafa. I am technically now the principal designer at Netlify, and I I was an early hire a joint a while ago, and I've been working mainly on the app, but also marketing stuff. And before Netlify, I was doing some indie things, building games and sites, I guess. So yeah. The reason I want to have you both on, the show today was to sort of talk, a bit about what it looks like to sort of build new UI features, at Netlify and how sort of the team collaborates and what the design process and the implementation process sort of looks like. I had Matt on the show a couple weeks ago talking about sort of sort of the architecture of the React SPA and getting deep into some of, like, those sort of technical details. And I'm sort of curious to talk to you guys for the same reason which is basically just that I find the Netlify dashboard experience to just be one of the absolute most delightful apps I get to interact with on a day to day basis. So you're both definitely doing awesome work there and I think there's a lot that, we can learn from how you build things. Thank you. Yeah. That's awesome to hear. So so maybe the first thing I I guess that I'd be interested to, learn more about is, Leslie, you identify as a front end engineer at Netlify. And Rafa, you focus more on design, but how much would you say your skills, like, sort of cross over? Like, Leslie, do you feel like you have really good design chops too? And Rafa, do you do any, like, programming and stuff in Netlify too? Or are you mostly working in design tools? And, Leslie, are you mostly just implementing the designs that are, like, kind of built or sorry, designed by the designers. So maybe, Leslie, you can answer first. Yeah. So, you know, design was actually kind of what led me …