153: DHH – Omarchy and Designing Your Own OS on Arch Linux

Okay. David Heinemeier Hansen. So right now we're recording a video podcast and you are on Linux. This is something that Internet would have you believe is not necessarily possible. It almost wasn't possible. That's the funny thing. Right? We just tried to get it going with Riverside, and there was definitely some snafu. But then we jumped into SquadCast, and your your EarPods doesn't work. Computers, man. Nothing works. I don't know. Or everything works. Everything is just an interesting mystery you gotta find out. And I think that's certainly an attitude you should adopt if you're going on a Linux adventure. I think you should have that attitude for a new kind of computer because they all break it sometimes. But it is probably fair to say that Linux has more of those adventures, at least in the startup phase, than, you probably used to if you have something that's been vetted by QA department of 1,500 people who bang on everything. It's a little more community, focused when you do it with Linux just as it is with all kinds of other open source. But I think what's funny about Linux is a lot of folks have some apprehension about that while at the same time entrusting their entire business, their net worth, their access to the Internet on Linux, Linux, Linux, Linux. On open source, open source, open source. Right? Because, what, 95% of all servers in the world run Linux. Virtually every system is built with open source software, same kind of model. It is interesting that the last frontier seems to be desktop. That that's where people go like, oh, that's too scary to try something else than what I've been running the last twenty years. I feel like historically, for me at least, I mean, there is that element of, like, terror of not feeling like you know how to make everything work. And I think we can get into it with Arch Linux, especially. That sounds especially terrifying. But I think historically, a lot of it has just come down to, like, oh, the tools that I need to use, like, equivalents don't necessarily exist on Linux, you know. And I I don't really feel that's as true today. And I personally, I kinda feel that's especially because of, like, the, increasing capabilities of the web. You know, like, you can use Figma in Linux, whereas prior to that, you there was not probably not any great professional UI design tool you could use on Linux. You know? It's completely changed the game. And I'd say that change of the game is a huge part of why I'm so fascinated and interested and enthusiastic about Linux. Because if you roll the clock back twenty years, like, the list of little Mac apps I used to use, like, I was I don't know. Very long. The list of native Mac apps I used just before switching to Linux was Yeebic. And all of …