108: Jonathan Reinink - Client-Side Rendering, Server-Side Routing

In this episode of Fullstack Radio I talked to Jonathan Renick about building your entire front end with Vue JS without abandoning server side routing or data fetching. This is Fullstack Radio episode one zero eight. Hey, everyone. Welcome to another episode of the Fullstack Radio podcast. I'm your host, Adam Wavin. And today, I am talking to recurring guest. I think the most recurring guest of all time, my buddy, Jonathan Renick. How is it going, Jonathan? It's going good, man. Great to be back on yet again. I like that I'm in spot number one. I I don't know if that means anything, but I I feel like that's a win somehow. So the reason that I wanted to have you on the show to chat again today is that I'm in private. We've sort of been having some conversations about, kind of the way that we develop, you know, Laravel applications especially in this era where kind of user interfaces are getting more and more complex. And I know we both talked in the past about like, you know, maybe we should start building SPAs and stuff like that. But I think in general, both of us are still pretty kind of we we still kind of are comfortable in our ways. You know what I mean? And just trying to figure out ways to to build better apps without sort of throwing the baby out with the bathwater. And, you've talked to me about an approach that you've been sort of experimenting with lately that's been working out well for you that you wrote a blog post about yesterday and I think it'd be really cool to sort of talk about that. So I think maybe the best place to start is just talking a bit about, like, how we've built applications, traditionally and what your approach has been up until now when you've needed to add some sort of, like, complex interactivity to, like, an otherwise vanilla traditional Laravel app where you're doing server side running, regular controllers, you know, blade for your templates that sort of thing. So how have you been handling that, up until now? Yeah. For sure. So I've been building pretty classic server side rendered apps to this point. I haven't made the big switch to building single page apps although I have you know, with work, I've built some of them but primarily on my own projects, I still prefer that classic MVC server side approach to web development. Where everything's like a full page refresh and just kinda your custom rails style application. Bingo. Exactly. So and but obviously, there's been a lot of change in the client side space with the introduction of like Angular and Vue and React and all these really, really powerful JavaScript libraries that make reactive content and all this stuff really possible taking sort of what was started with jQuery to a whole new level. But I would say that I'm still …