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Freakonomics Radio

What Happens When You Turn 20

November 12, 2025

62 min episode · 2 min read

Jeff Bennett

Episode

62 min

Read time

2 min

Topics

Science & Discovery, Books & Authors

AI-Generated Summary

Published Dec 7, 2025

What It Covers

Stephen Dubner celebrates Freakonomics' twentieth anniversary, reading the new foreword and discussing the book's evolution, writing process, data-driven journalism, and podcast development with PBS NewsHour's Jeff Bennett.

Notable Moment

Dubner reveals he nearly threw away decades of research files until Levitt texted congratulations on their anniversary, making him realize the materials represent their life's work worth preserving.

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