Brené with Aiko Bethea and Ruchika Tulshyan on the Heart of Leadership, Part 1 of 2

Hi, everyone. I'm Renee Brown, and this is Dare to Lead. I have two Dare to Lead favorites back with us today. Two people who are cocreators with me. They are teachers of mine. They are mentors. They are, I think, coconspirators. Really important people to me in terms of my own personal and professional growth, and I consider them both good friends. I'm here today with Aiko Bethia and Ruchika Tulshian. Ruchika was on Dare to Lead in October 2021 with Jodi Ann Burry to talk about imposter syndrome. I think they had the most spare is that right? The most downloaded HBR article of the year. Yes. Yeah. And just like it was called stop telling women they have imposter syndrome, and it was badassery. And then Ruchika was back on in April of twenty twenty two of this year to talk about her book, Inclusion on Purpose, an intersectional approach to creating a culture belonging at work. Aiko was on Dare to Lead for the first time in November 2020 talking about inclusivity at work and an article she wrote entitled An Open Letter to Corporate America Philanthropy and Academia, What Now? And this was really in response to organizations and brands after George Floyd's murder saying, okay. We get it. We have to do something. We don't know what to do. And she wrote a very prescriptive and helpful open letter about what we can do. She was again on Dare to Lead in February '21, digging into how to create transformative cultures. Now they're here together. And I wanted to talk to them because their perspectives are very important to me. And I wanted to ask about belonging work, diversity, inclusion, equity work. What do we think is at the heart of it? What have they seen? What are we getting right? What are we still not doing well? And it became one of the most maybe important conversations we've had on Dare to Lead that I think is fundamental to this idea that equity inclusion, diversity, and belonging work is actually the heart of real leadership, of daring leadership. It's not a bolt on or an add on or if you're really good, you will also do this work. It's the heart. It's the lifeblood. It's the marrow. And there is an emotional toll of facilitating that work and doing that work. It's interesting to me that belonging work is the heart, and it's pumping, and it's messy, and a lot of blood in and a lot of blood out. And I think that's a really appropriate metaphor for this conversation. I'm glad you're here. Avoiding your unfinished home projects because you're not sure where to start? Thumbtack knows homes, so you don't have to. Don't know the difference between matte paint finish and satin, or what that clunking sound from your dryer is? With Thumbtack, you don't have to be a home pro. You just have to hire one. You can hire top …