Brené and Barrett on Why Every Leader Needs to Worry About Toxic Culture

Hey, everyone. It's Brene Brown, and this is Dare to Lead. Joining us today is Barrett. Whoo. I thought we would have a follow-up conversation to the podcast that we dropped on March 7. We had a conversation with Don and Charlie Saul of CultureX about the great resignation and how toxic culture was the single best predictor of attrition during the first six months of the great resignation. It was 10 times more powerful than how employees viewed their compensation in predicting employee turnover. It was just a data packed episode. So good. Right? It was so good. The research that Don and Charlie do together is incredible. And I found them in an MIT Sloan article. Yes. And so they gave us, during that podcast on March 7, a sneak peek into another article they were getting ready to publish with MIT Sloan that actually came out on March 16 about what are the attributes of a toxic culture. What exactly are we talking about? We had an interesting conversation about that, the three of us did. And I've so greatly appreciated the sneak peek. So today, I thought you and I would dip into this new article, why every leader needs to worry about toxic culture by Don Sull, Charlie Sull, William I'm gonna go with Capoli and Ciao Binguetti. I'm hoping this is right. I have some thoughts about the intersection of these findings with our work. So I thought you and I could just have a conversation about it. Oh, I'm excited. I loved the first episode so much, so I can't wait. Okay. Before we go to our first commercial break, let me just say, Atlas of the Heart HBO Max series. It's out. It's out. It's so good. Oh my god. It's like toothpaste. Like, I I'm like, I'm so anxious about it being in the world that I'm trying to suck it back in, but there's no sucking it back in. It's beautiful. You don't wanna suck it back in. I do wanna suck it back in. You need it. Okay. But I don't care. Alright. We'll be back. It's gonna go today. This is This Is Today. Support for this show comes from Odoo. Running a business is hard enough, so why make it harder with a dozen different apps that don't talk to each other? Introducing Odoo. It's the only business software you'll ever need. It's an all in one fully integrated platform that makes your work easier. CRM, accounting, inventory, e commerce and more. And the best part? Odoo replaces multiple expensive platforms for a fraction of the cost. That's why over thousands of businesses have made the switch. So why not you? Try Odoo for free at odoo.com. That's odoo.com. Support for this show comes from Odoo. Running a business is hard enough, so why make it harder with a dozen different apps that don't talk to each other? Introducing Odoo. It's the only business software you'll ever …