Mini-Retirements: Test Driving Financial Independence | Ep 561

Hello, and welcome to Choose It Fi. Today on the show, we have our good friend, Jillian Johnsrude, who's back with a new book. The book is Retire Often, and she's been on the show previously talking about mini retirements. And this is a concept that has really taken hold in the FI community largely because of Jillian's tireless work of bringing this to our attention. It's really critical, and I think it'll help us design a better life generally, especially on our path to FI. It used to be FI was this one monolithic thing where we would just save, save, save. We'd wake up, we'd hit a number, and that would be that. And what next was the question that a lot of us asked. And I think what's really cool about the concept of mini retirements is this helps you practice. It helps you practice all along the journey of what is next? What do I want my life to look like? I think this is really critically profound, and I think you're really going to enjoy this episode. And with that, welcome to Choose That Fine. Jillian, welcome back to the show. It is always good to see you. It is always so lovely to see you. Yeah. This should be fun. So we you and I talk quite often offline. Yes. So I was going through I think the last time you're on the show was episode four fifty one, where we actually talked about many retirements, unsurprisingly. And I listened to that episode this morning, and a was great b. It was a nice overview of the whole conceptual framework of mini retirements. But you actually floated, oh, I'm thinking about writing a book. I think I'm in the early stages of it. And lo and behold, that book has now come to fruition. It's publishing. Isn't that amazing? Oh, man. So, it's coming out September 9, and it's called retire often. Yeah. Very cool. So, yeah, it was neat kinda hearing that blast from the past. So for everyone who's interested, I think I'm not going to give you a ton of homework, but go back and listen to episode four fifty one. It's absolutely fantastic. Mini retirements, thanks to Jillian have really become a central piece of the modern financial independence movement. I think to me, two of the biggest changes in FI have been the concept of Coast FI, which our friends over at the pioneers have helped coin and popularize, and many retirements, which are the brainchild of of Jillian in our community. And, yeah, it's really neat to see these two concepts evolve and become essential and really become things that people are thinking about and then implement. Okay. Enough preamble Jillian. So episode four fifty one, people can get a real good overview, but let's give them the quick two minute or five minute overview now. So what is a mini retirement? What are the absolute fundamental underpinnings …