Martin Shkreli: Big Pharma's Blind Spot, Betting Against Quantum & What Prison Taught Him

He's been called the most hated man in America because he jacked up the cost of a life saving drug. Raised the price of a life saving drug 5000%. He became the poster child for capitalistic greed. Martin Shkreli, seven years in prison. We definitely plan on raising the price. That's for sure. You can be prosecuted for not maximizing profit, and you have to do everything in your power to make as much money as possible. And if I'm the enemy for you, good. I'm happy, man. I'm fulfilling some need in your life. Purchase the only copy of a legendary Wu Tang Clan album with no immediate plans to play it. It's not a good record. Ego is the fountainhead of all progress. Please welcome Martin Shkreli. Welcome, Martin. You're like... Thanks for coming out. Oh, yeah. Nice to meet you. You wore Brad's outfit today. Exactly. Alright. Welcome, Martin. We got so many topics to go into with you, but I wanna start with one. You've basically taken down quantum computing. You said you think that this is a fraud, that people might be going to jail. So two part question. Number one, maybe you could give us your thesis on on why this is a fraud or Fugazi or Fugizi, whatever it is. Discratiade. And a Discratiade. And then two, your best advice for those CEOs when they do go to jail, you've got a little experience. Yeah. Best advice in terms of you don't seem to be the kind of guy who would thrive in prison, but from what I understand, Martin, you... You're like a shock collar. You're a shock collar in prison. Turned into Lex Luther and you were running the yard, I understand. So break us through the quantum trade and, you know, best practices when you go to the Husqvar. Yes. I I have to shout out my my wife, Chelsea. So Chelsea, very few people know her, but she's, I think, a big deal in technology. She was one of the first people at OpenAI. And her father, believe it or not, was one of the first people at NVIDIA. In my family, I was one of the first people in prison. So I thought I'd switch the gene pool, you know, shifted over a little bit. But Chelsea studied at MIT and taught quantum computing with Scott Aronson, the preeminent guy And, in you know, we we... She she got to teach me over many hours, you know, penetrating my thick head, you know, what exactly quantum computing even is. And I think a lot of people sort of synonymize it with faster computing, which sounds great. It's really not what it is at all. No. And I think the basic point of quantum computing is that there's one algorithm. In fact, the whole field was invented because of Peter Schorr's thought experiment. Peter considered this idea that there are kinds of algorithms that you can run faster in …