Flock CEO Garrett Langley on Controversy, "Surveillance State" Claims, and Privacy vs Safety

Alright, everybody. Welcome back to the All In interview. This is where we find the people building the future, sometimes a politician, sometimes a CEO, sometimes an investor. All the time, an important discussion. And one of the most important discussions of the moment is balancing safety and privacy. And there is one company that has, you know, is at the center of this, and we're so lucky to have Garrett from Flock here, Garrett Langley. Garrett, you and I spoke on This Week in Startups, my other podcast that I've been doing for sixteen years. I don't know how many years ago, that was six or seven years ago. Six or seven years. Yep. And I've been following your company, full disclosure. I was, like, trying to invest at one point. I I'm not a shareholder, but I've always been intrigued by what you're doing, on the margin sometimes concerned, and it seems like you've been so successful with Flock, which does safety cameras, license plate readers specifically, I'm gonna get into all the details today. But in the last year, because of the tremendous success of Flock, it has been adopted in many communities. We're gonna get into that. And it's had a really great impact at reducing crime. We'll get into that. But there is now a group of people who maybe are have privacy concerns. And you and I have talked over the years, and we're gonna get into it. We're gonna go right at the controversies and everything and this grand debate we're gonna have. How much privacy am I gonna give up to get safety? And it's really interesting to me that there's been so much energy on this recently because when I see that kind of energy as an investor, or as a podcast host here and the world's greatest moderator, TM, I know there's something at stake. I'm doing all of you. Applovin started with an $8 domain and no VC funding and became one of the largest ad platforms in the world. Now that same engine powers AppLovin ads for ecommerce. Your ads run inside mobile games reaching over a billion people with full screen distraction free attention. The platform finds buyers and optimizes for profit. You set the target, it does the rest. One cookware brand went from 4,000,000 to $16,000,000, turned profitable, and is on pace for 80,000,000 this year. Visit applovin.com/ all in to launch your first campaign today. I'm doing all in. Tell us a little bit about flock safety and how many communities you're in now. And then also the drone component, because people know the license plate readers, maybe they don't know the drones. So let's just get that footprint and build a mental model for the audience here. That's great. Yeah. Jason, thanks for having me. So I started the company nine years ago with a pretty simple mission, which is to live in a safer neighborhood. And that was our initial pitch. You …