Brené with Dr. John Gottman and Dr. Julie Schwartz Gottman on The Love Prescription, Part 2 of 3

Hi, everyone. I'm Brene Brown, and this is Unlocking Us. We're back this week with episode two of our conversation with John Gottman and Julie Schwartz Gottman. The Gottmans are incredible clinicians and researchers who have been studying couples and relationships for decades. We're talking about their new book, The Love Prescription. And, again, this is part two of a part three series. Part one was kind of the first half of the book. Part two, we're getting into the meat of it. And then part three will be a sister's reaction podcast with me and Ashley and Barrett talking about what sounds too scary to do and what we're willing to try. Glad you're here. Avoiding your unfinished home projects because you're not sure where to start? Thumbtack knows homes, so you don't have to. Don't know the difference between matte paint finish and satin, or what that clunking sound from your dryer is? With Thumbtack, you don't have to be a home pro. You just have to hire one. You can hire top rated pros, see price estimates, and read reviews all on the app. Download today. At Criminal, we've made it a tradition every December to dedicate an episode entirely to animals who are really going for it. And Tony, what happened when you pulled over? Nothing out of the ordinary until I saw the cat on the back of the roof behind the luggage carrier. Listen to our fifth annual Animals episode on Criminal wherever you get your podcasts. Before we jump into the episode, let me just give you a little bit of reminder about who we're talking to. Doctor John Gottman previously served as the executive director of the Relationship Research Institute and is a professor emeritus of psychology at the University of Washington, where he founded the Love Lab. He is world renowned for his work on marital stability and divorce prediction and has conducted forty years of groundbreaking research with thousands of couples. Julie Schwartz Gottman is president of the Gottman Institute and cofounder of Affective Software. She is a highly respected clinical psychologist and was named Washington State psychologist of the year and received the 2021 psychotherapy networker lifetime achievement award. She has coauthored many books with John. Let's jump in. Alright. Welcome back, John and Julie. I'm so glad you're here. Thank you. Thank you for having us. Yeah. We're really happy to be here, Brene. Thank you. Okay. I wanna start as we are working on as the unlocking us collective is working on recognizing bids for connection of not only being helpful and supportive, but being appreciative when our partners are helpful and supportive. Great homework from last week. It seems to me, and I've noticed this in my relationship for sure, that sometimes what we're talking about is not what we're talking about. Right. Can you tell us the cabin story? Yes. Yeah. I mean, it just if I'd ever been motivated to tear pages out of …