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879: A Christian and a Muslim Walk Into a Bar

60 min episode · 2 min read
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Sharif Homsie,Maliki Madanali,Eamon O'ghana

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60 min

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2 min

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Career Growth, Relationships, Marketing

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Key Takeaways

  • Post-revolution censorship paradox: New Syrian government allows political jokes but bans content threatening "family values" or "civil peace," forcing comedians to sign Ministry of Tourism pledges avoiding religious humor and hate speech—creating ambiguous red lines unlike Assad's clear prohibitions on political content.
  • Social media as political leverage: Comedians mobilize 300,000 Instagram followers to pressure local officials after show cancellations, treating online engagement as protection against government silencing. Abu Aziz's post reaching 47,000 viewers forces government meeting, demonstrating how digital audiences create negotiating power in transitional states.
  • Conservative gatekeeping mechanisms: Local bureaucrats in Hama cancel shows citing false LGBTQ promotion accusations, then shift justifications to "offensive family content" when comedians joke about parents. Officials require three separate government permissions, using bureaucratic layers to suppress content without explicit bans, mirroring authoritarian tactics.
  • Sectarian geography of freedom: Christian-majority towns like Moharde initially seem safer for performances, but Islamist authorities extend control across religious boundaries. Comedians discover regional power dynamics override demographic assumptions, with Hama officials blocking shows even in neighboring Christian areas through venue owner intimidation.
  • Performative liberalization strategy: Government officials claim they never canceled shows and emphasize sitting with comedians rather than imprisoning them, contrasting themselves with Assad while still demanding public apologies and content restrictions. This creates illusion of dialogue while maintaining control through fear and forced compliance.

What It Covers

Syrian comedy troupe Styria embarks on a 16-city nationwide tour one year after Assad's fall, navigating death threats, government censorship, and conservative backlash while testing the boundaries of free speech in post-dictatorship Syria.

Key Questions Answered

  • Post-revolution censorship paradox: New Syrian government allows political jokes but bans content threatening "family values" or "civil peace," forcing comedians to sign Ministry of Tourism pledges avoiding religious humor and hate speech—creating ambiguous red lines unlike Assad's clear prohibitions on political content.
  • Social media as political leverage: Comedians mobilize 300,000 Instagram followers to pressure local officials after show cancellations, treating online engagement as protection against government silencing. Abu Aziz's post reaching 47,000 viewers forces government meeting, demonstrating how digital audiences create negotiating power in transitional states.
  • Conservative gatekeeping mechanisms: Local bureaucrats in Hama cancel shows citing false LGBTQ promotion accusations, then shift justifications to "offensive family content" when comedians joke about parents. Officials require three separate government permissions, using bureaucratic layers to suppress content without explicit bans, mirroring authoritarian tactics.
  • Sectarian geography of freedom: Christian-majority towns like Moharde initially seem safer for performances, but Islamist authorities extend control across religious boundaries. Comedians discover regional power dynamics override demographic assumptions, with Hama officials blocking shows even in neighboring Christian areas through venue owner intimidation.
  • Performative liberalization strategy: Government officials claim they never canceled shows and emphasize sitting with comedians rather than imprisoning them, contrasting themselves with Assad while still demanding public apologies and content restrictions. This creates illusion of dialogue while maintaining control through fear and forced compliance.

Notable Moment

After three years in Dubai prison for drug dealing, Sharif returns to Syria with a notebook filled with comedy ideas written in his cell. He launches Styria by posting online, finding Maliki who had bombed his first open mic so badly the bar crowd demanded the music be turned back on.

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Episode Transcript

A quick warning, there are curse words that are unbeeped in today's episode of the show. If you prefer a beeped version, you can find that at our website, this americanlife.org. Sharif Homsie is a stand up comic in a place. It's not really known for its comedy scene. Damascus, Syria. As maybe you've heard, the place was run by a dictator for a long time, Bashar al Assad. Back then, there were a lot of jokes that Sharif was not able to tell on stage. Definitely nothing about Assad or Assad's family. Nothing about politics at all. Those kind of jokes would get you killed or disappeared into one of Assad's infamous prisons. So during those years So Sharif kept jokes like that in a folder on his computer labeled Lebanon because he pretty much only felt safe telling them when he would take trips abroad. There is one joke. Well, I I love this joke. I wanna bring it back. But there is one joke I used to say, when I go to Lebanon, like, listen. We have a lot of problem, but you don't have a president. And our problem is that we have one. So maybe if you take him, and you can rent him for a bit. And if you like him, you can keep him. You know? You cannot say anything like this, man. That joke, if I say it over here, we we will we will get killed. There is no joke with them. Bashar al Assad's family ruled Syria for fifty three years, the last thirteen of which were a brutal civil war. Over 300,000 Syrian civilians died. Then a year ago, to everybody's surprise, a bunch of rebel groups overthrew the regime in just twelve days. Assad, his wife Asma, and their family flew to Russia. The rebels were led by an Islamist group called Hayat Terer al Sham, HTS for short. And then the new people in power surprised everybody again by not immediately becoming another repressive regime. HTS leader Ahmed al Sharra says he's acting as interim president and has promised to hold elections in the next few years. And Syrians have been experiencing a freedom that they have not experienced before. I had dinner a couple weeks ago with somebody who was just there, and they were talking about how kind of inspiring it is to be there right now. She met lots of people who are moving back, ready and excited to rebuild their country. But at the same time, parts of Syria are still violent. It was fighting this month in and around Aleppo. Over a 150,000 people were displaced. In July, Sharif had to cancel a show in a city called Soweto because of a massacre there. 800 people were killed. And then in October, in the middle of this chaos and hope, Sharif and the other comedians in his comedy group, the group is called Styria, decided to go on tour. They planned 16 …

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