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Low Libido, Hormone Imbalances, & How To Reignite Your Sex Life Ft. Josh & Katy Whalen Of Joi + Blokes

60 min episode · 3 min read
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Josh Whalen,Katy Whalen

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60 min

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3 min

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Health & Wellness, Relationships, Startups

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Key Takeaways

  • Testosterone baseline targets: Standard lab ranges list 300–1,000 ng/dL as "normal" for men, but Josh and Katie's clinical experience places the optimal thriving range at 700–1,200 ng/dL. Josh's levels tested at 200 ng/dL — comparable to a 70-year-old — causing complete loss of libido, weight gain, and prediabetes. Getting labs done is the essential first diagnostic step before any intervention.
  • Enclomiphene over TRT for younger men: Rather than defaulting to testosterone replacement therapy, Joi and Blokes more frequently prescribes enclomiphene, a Clomid derivative that stimulates the body's natural testosterone production without shutting it down. Unlike TRT, it preserves fertility, avoids testicular shrinkage, and some patients triple their baseline levels. It is particularly relevant given the trend of low testosterone appearing in increasingly younger men.
  • Women and testosterone: Most women arrive at Joi and Blokes with testosterone levels near zero, often attributed to chronic stress, hormonal birth control, or post-pregnancy hormonal disruption. Testosterone therapy for perimenopausal and menopausal women addresses fatigue, brain fog, anxiety, and low libido. In Katie's case, starting testosterone also allowed her to discontinue thyroid medication entirely as overall metabolic function improved.
  • GLP-1 microdosing protocol: Starting at the lowest effective dose of GLP-1 peptides and titrating upward eliminates the nausea and side effects that plagued early macro-dose users. Because individual responses vary dramatically — the same dose can suppress appetite entirely in one person and have no effect in another — personalized dosing under clinical supervision is necessary. Biomarkers across multiple health categories improve even at microdose levels.
  • Peptide sourcing and legal risk: Research peptides sold online with influencer affiliate codes exist in a legally gray zone and frequently test with zero potency or sterility. Legitimate peptides require a prescription from a licensed clinician and must come from an FDA-recognized 503A compounding pharmacy (fully customized per patient) or a 503B pharmacy (standardized bulk production). Purchasing outside these channels carries both health and legal risk.

What It Covers

Josh and Katie Whalen, founders of hormone optimization platforms Joi and Blokes, share how testosterone deficiency nearly ended their marriage, how TRT reversed Josh's levels from 200 to optimal range, and why balanced hormones in both partners directly determines relationship intimacy, sex drive, and long-term health outcomes for men and women.

Key Questions Answered

  • Testosterone baseline targets: Standard lab ranges list 300–1,000 ng/dL as "normal" for men, but Josh and Katie's clinical experience places the optimal thriving range at 700–1,200 ng/dL. Josh's levels tested at 200 ng/dL — comparable to a 70-year-old — causing complete loss of libido, weight gain, and prediabetes. Getting labs done is the essential first diagnostic step before any intervention.
  • Enclomiphene over TRT for younger men: Rather than defaulting to testosterone replacement therapy, Joi and Blokes more frequently prescribes enclomiphene, a Clomid derivative that stimulates the body's natural testosterone production without shutting it down. Unlike TRT, it preserves fertility, avoids testicular shrinkage, and some patients triple their baseline levels. It is particularly relevant given the trend of low testosterone appearing in increasingly younger men.
  • Women and testosterone: Most women arrive at Joi and Blokes with testosterone levels near zero, often attributed to chronic stress, hormonal birth control, or post-pregnancy hormonal disruption. Testosterone therapy for perimenopausal and menopausal women addresses fatigue, brain fog, anxiety, and low libido. In Katie's case, starting testosterone also allowed her to discontinue thyroid medication entirely as overall metabolic function improved.
  • GLP-1 microdosing protocol: Starting at the lowest effective dose of GLP-1 peptides and titrating upward eliminates the nausea and side effects that plagued early macro-dose users. Because individual responses vary dramatically — the same dose can suppress appetite entirely in one person and have no effect in another — personalized dosing under clinical supervision is necessary. Biomarkers across multiple health categories improve even at microdose levels.
  • Peptide sourcing and legal risk: Research peptides sold online with influencer affiliate codes exist in a legally gray zone and frequently test with zero potency or sterility. Legitimate peptides require a prescription from a licensed clinician and must come from an FDA-recognized 503A compounding pharmacy (fully customized per patient) or a 503B pharmacy (standardized bulk production). Purchasing outside these channels carries both health and legal risk.
  • Lifestyle factors driving low testosterone: Sedentary desk work, chronic LED light exposure, poor sleep, elevated cortisol, and metabolic dysfunction — affecting 70–80% of US adults — directly suppress testosterone production. A real-world example: a man who renovates homes, does 100–200 air squats daily, and works outdoors tested at 1,300 ng/dL with no supplementation. Prioritizing sleep quality, stress reduction, sunlight, and resistance training forms the necessary foundation before any hormonal intervention.

Notable Moment

After visiting multiple primary care doctors, a sex therapist, and marriage counselors over several years for complete loss of libido, not one practitioner ever suggested Josh get his testosterone checked. A single appointment with a longevity-focused physician revealed he was prediabetic with the hormone profile of a 70-year-old man.

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Episode Transcript

Welcome to the Bosticks, starring Lauren Bostick and Michael Bostick. Together, they are the Bosticks. Hello, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of the Bosticks. Today, we have Josh and Katie Whelan, who are the founders of Joy and Blokes. And Lauren and I fell in love with this couple. We loved this episode. They were so honest. They were so open. They were so raw and vulnerable, and they had a ton of great information to share. So who are Josh and Katie? Josh and Katie are the founders of Joining Blokes. They're obviously a married couple as well, and they have created a platform that helps people optimize their health, figure out hormones, figure out what's going on with their blood work, and this was right up Lauren and I's alley. There's, you know, ton of things in health and wellness here. Some of the topics that we discuss on this show are how to manage hormones to save your marriage, talking about your sex drive and your sex life, which is very important, the dynamics of business partners as a married couple or just a couple in general, self funding the future of the health care system, breaking down peptides and TRT. And, again, like I said, they were so honest, open, raw, and real on this episode. Josh specifically was talking all about his hormone levels and testosterone. It It was one of the first times a man has come on the show and been this raw and vulnerable about it, and I think it's gonna help a lot of people, especially men out there or couples in general. Together, they're committed to creating a system where people feel heard, supported, and empowered across every stage of their health journey. With that, Josh and Katie, welcome to the. Welcome to the show, you guys. This is so fun to do this with another couple. Yeah. We're excited to be here. Thanks for having us. Thank you so much. Let's get the lay of the land. How did you guys even get in to what you're doing now? Like, where did this even start? It's pretty simple. I was about sixty pounds heavier, and I lost my sex drive, and she was gonna divorce me. So it was it was that was the initial birth of it. And I had always been in health care majority of my I mean, the last seventeen years of my life had been in healthcare. And we were peaking with one of the businesses that we had. There were stem cell businesses, regenerative medicine. And as soon as those were starting to peak, COVID hit. So, for the first time and if you remember, there was, like, this really low point of not doing anything. She was like, hey, dude. You're fat. You don't have a sex drive, and I'm gonna divorce you. And she had been telling me that for a while. Forever. Like, it was so I couldn't get …

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