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#23 - Leah and Angel Interview Eagle Smith - Pt 2

26 min episode · 2 min read
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Eagle Smith

Episode

26 min

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2 min

Topics

Career Growth, Personal Finance, Marketing

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Key Takeaways

  • Parallel project strategy: While in preproduction for her feature film, Eagle develops a modern Robin Hood podcast pilot about a city native in a gentrified neighborhood, building audience following and creating intellectual property to sell while keeping creative skills sharp between major projects.
  • Script editing discipline: Through the eight-week Native American TV Writers Lab, Eagle learned to cut scripts from 60 to 46 pages in hours and complete 25-page overnight redrafts by staying married to the story rather than specific characters, eliminating four characters and unnecessary elements without losing narrative core.
  • Cultural representation approach: Eagle writes native characters based on her city native experience rather than reservation life, creating protagonists who move through stories without cultural density requirements, similar to how Bridgerton and Orange is the New Black cast diverse actors who simply excel at their craft.
  • Festival marketing budget: Film festival attendance requires budgeting beyond production and post-production, including plane tickets, hotel accommodations, festival badges, and ten thousand dollar PR representatives who provide access to networking parties where meaningful industry connections happen, all essential for effective film promotion.

What It Covers

Filmmaker Eagle Smith discusses her journey from producing 60 short films to her first feature, detailing her experience in the Native American TV Writers Lab and her approach to creating authentic native characters in contemporary settings.

Key Questions Answered

  • Parallel project strategy: While in preproduction for her feature film, Eagle develops a modern Robin Hood podcast pilot about a city native in a gentrified neighborhood, building audience following and creating intellectual property to sell while keeping creative skills sharp between major projects.
  • Script editing discipline: Through the eight-week Native American TV Writers Lab, Eagle learned to cut scripts from 60 to 46 pages in hours and complete 25-page overnight redrafts by staying married to the story rather than specific characters, eliminating four characters and unnecessary elements without losing narrative core.
  • Cultural representation approach: Eagle writes native characters based on her city native experience rather than reservation life, creating protagonists who move through stories without cultural density requirements, similar to how Bridgerton and Orange is the New Black cast diverse actors who simply excel at their craft.
  • Festival marketing budget: Film festival attendance requires budgeting beyond production and post-production, including plane tickets, hotel accommodations, festival badges, and ten thousand dollar PR representatives who provide access to networking parties where meaningful industry connections happen, all essential for effective film promotion.

Notable Moment

Eagle lost a role in Killers of the Flower Moon, which devastated her, but channeled that rejection into writing her Robin Hood pilot script while caring for her mother who nearly died, transforming personal crisis into creative momentum that launched her television writing career.

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Episode Transcript

Welcome to this week's episode of Pitch. Last week, Lee and I started a little chat with Eagle Smith. We're gonna pick that up this week. Eagle is a filmmaker originally from a small Alaskan fishing village called Metlakatla. Eagle once produced 60 short films in the course of two years, and she is currently in preproduction for her first feature film that she's producing and she also wrote. We're gonna start where we left off with me asking Eagle if she is even thinking about her next project while ramping up on her current one. I wanna ask about your thought process on your next projects. And I know you're in preproduction on a feature, your first feature. Correct? Yeah. So maybe your thought process isn't even on your next projects because this is gonna be so consuming for so long. But what are, if any, your thoughts about the next stories you wanna tell, and are they contingent on this process that you're about to embark on? I do have a next project that I've already started, and it's more of a long term kind of thing. So it's separate. But to answer that part of the question first, it's actually not contingent upon this process. It's separate from this process. I have a pilot that I wrote about it's a modern day Robin Hood, and it's about a city native because we don't see that part of natives in depicted in film and television. So it's about a city native who is in a gentrified neighborhood, and she decides after she loses her home, it's time to start stealing from the rich and giving to the poor. And so what I've done with that is it's a podcast, and the goal is to build up a following. The goal is to get it done. The goal is to do it and give opportunity to writers who are not writing or putting their stuff up for production, to get stuff up for production, and produce something. And if all goes well, then it builds a following, and suddenly, I have IP, intellectual property that I can sell to somebody. That's, you know, kind of like the dream, but the the big part of this is it's just something to do, and it's something to keep you going. It's something to keep you focused. It's something to keep your skills sharp. Cool. That sounds very cool. Very cool. So speaking about being an emerging filmmaker and going from doing your short film, podcast to your first feature film, you have something that I don't know a lot about, but you did the Native American TV Writers Lab. Do you wanna talk about the process of how you got into it and then what it did for you and what you learned? Yeah. So that comes with a little bit of a backstory. As I mentioned earlier, I'm an actress, and I was actually up for a role in Killers …

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    Eagle develops a modern Robin Hood podcast pilot about a city native in a gentrified neighborhood, building audience following and creating intellectual property to sell while keeping creative skills sharp between major projects.

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