#366 ‒ Transforming education with AI and an individualized, mastery-based education model | Joe Liemandt

Hey, everyone. Welcome to the Drive podcast. I'm your host, Peter Attia. This podcast, my website, and my weekly newsletter all focus on the goal of translating the science of longevity into something accessible for everyone. Our goal is to provide the best content in health and wellness, and we've established a great team of analysts to make this happen. It is extremely important to me to provide all of this content without relying on paid ads. To do this, our work is made entirely possible by our members. And in return, we offer exclusive member only content and benefits above and beyond what is available for free. If you want to take your knowledge of this space to the next level, it's our goal to ensure members get back much more than the price of the subscription. If you want to learn more about the benefits of our premium membership, head over to peteratiamd.com forward slash subscribe. My guest this week is Joe Limar. Joe's a software entrepreneur turned education reformer. As we discussed in the podcast, he dropped out of Stanford in about 1989, started a company called Trilogy that's gone on to become one of the most profitable software companies in the world that you've probably never heard of because it's remained private this entire time. Joe basically left Trilogy three years ago to become the principal of Alpha School And his passion today and as he discusses for the next couple of decades of his life is going to be on transforming K through 12 education. Now, of course, this is something that many people have thought about before, but I think what is really remarkable about the way Joe tells the story is that all previous efforts to transform K through 12 have been missing a critical piece of infrastructure, and that infrastructure is indeed AI. Now you may be asking why we're gonna have a discussion about education on the drive, but of course, as I state to Joe at the outset of this podcast, you can't really care about science and medicine if you don't care about education. All of us listening today are one day going to be cared for by people who are in K through 12 today, who are going to have to learn STEM and hopefully be interested enough to choose a career in medicine. So I think we all have a very vested interest in this, not just for the health of our country and our economy, but also on a very deep and personal level. We talk a lot in this episode about what it is that education research has been saying for the past forty or fifty years that has been unimplementable because of scale. So we talk, of course, in this episode about his path from software engineer to education. Why that pivot? We talk about what's wrong in K through 12 education and the forces behind it. In fact, just as an anecdote today, …