497. Investing in Outsiders, Why Extreme Personalities Win, Weighing Timing versus Trends, and Rethinking Liquidity and Option Exercise Windows (Ethan Austin)
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41 min
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2 min
Topics
Health & Wellness, Investing
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Key Takeaways
- ✓Outsider founder pattern: Larry Ellison, Steve Jobs, and Elon Musk were all outsiders (adopted, immigrants, college dropouts) who built the world's largest companies, yet traditional VCs wouldn't have backed them early—suggesting systematic bias against non-traditional founders creates opportunity.
- ✓Timing execution strategy: GiveForward survived by bootstrapping for two and a half years until Facebook scaled from 200 million to one billion users, providing 80% of their traffic—staying alive long enough to catch the wave matters more than perfect initial execution.
- ✓LP base as expert network: Outside VC structured fund one with 180 small LPs including 30-plus VCs and 30-40 fintech operators, creating a mini expert network for diligence in unfamiliar sectors rather than hiring traditional advisors or building internal expertise across all categories.
- ✓Employee equity reform: Companies still use 90-day option exercise windows despite taking 7-10 years to IPO versus the historical 3 years—employees should demand 10-year windows and access to the same data room information that investors receive before making exercise decisions.
What It Covers
Ethan Austin of Outside VC explains his thesis of backing outsider founders, discusses timing versus trends in early-stage investing, shares lessons from building GiveForward and running Techstars programs, and advocates for extended employee option windows.
Key Questions Answered
- •Outsider founder pattern: Larry Ellison, Steve Jobs, and Elon Musk were all outsiders (adopted, immigrants, college dropouts) who built the world's largest companies, yet traditional VCs wouldn't have backed them early—suggesting systematic bias against non-traditional founders creates opportunity.
- •Timing execution strategy: GiveForward survived by bootstrapping for two and a half years until Facebook scaled from 200 million to one billion users, providing 80% of their traffic—staying alive long enough to catch the wave matters more than perfect initial execution.
- •LP base as expert network: Outside VC structured fund one with 180 small LPs including 30-plus VCs and 30-40 fintech operators, creating a mini expert network for diligence in unfamiliar sectors rather than hiring traditional advisors or building internal expertise across all categories.
- •Employee equity reform: Companies still use 90-day option exercise windows despite taking 7-10 years to IPO versus the historical 3 years—employees should demand 10-year windows and access to the same data room information that investors receive before making exercise decisions.
Notable Moment
Austin reveals Facebook built an identical product to GiveForward and killed their business within one year after eight years of work, attempted to recruit the team, then watched the company sell to GoFundMe in an undisclosed acquisition—a brutal founder experience that shaped his investment philosophy.
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