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Best Of: Zadie Smith on Populists, Frauds and Flip Phones

72 min episode · 2 min read

Episode

72 min

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2 min

AI-Generated Summary

Key Takeaways

  • How does political pressure force amorphous identities to solidify?
  • What drives working-class support for obvious frauds like Trump?
  • How do social media algorithms modify human behavior and thought?
  • Why do aging and loneliness disproportionately affect different genders?

What It Covers

Zadie Smith explores populism, identity politics, and technology's impact on human consciousness through her novel The Fraud and nineteenth century Tichborne case parallels.

Key Questions Answered

  • How does political pressure force amorphous identities to solidify?
  • What drives working-class support for obvious frauds like Trump?
  • How do social media algorithms modify human behavior and thought?
  • Why do aging and loneliness disproportionately affect different genders?

Notable Moment

Smith reveals she avoids smartphones entirely after three months in 2008, fearing total addiction and consciousness colonization, relying instead on paper maps and planning.

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