Jordan Klepper: How to Talk to People You Disagree With (Without Losing It) | PT. 1

Welcome to the Daily Stoic podcast designed to help bring those four key stoic virtues, courage, discipline, justice, and wisdom into the real world. Hey. It's Ryan. Welcome to another episode of the Daily Stoic Podcast. Think about Socrates going around in ancient Athens. He he was pretty smart. Although he sort of played the humble fool, he was pretty smart. And most of the time, he knew that people were wrong, and he knew that what they were saying was laughable. So his curiosity, his questioning, his restraint. Right? He's restraining himself from dunking on these other people. He's letting them work through the solution themselves or asking them to really explain what they think so he can learn from it. That's not an easy thing to do. I think, culturally, we pay some lip service to the idea of, like, talking to people we disagree with, getting viewpoints from people maybe you, don't know or maybe you even don't like. But, like, we're sort of glossing over how difficult that is. Like, I don't just mean, like, it's difficult to get out of your information budget. But, like, if stoicism is the idea of controlling your emotions, not immediately reacting, it's actually super important because when you're hearing nonsense from another person, when you're hearing something offensive from another person, when you're hearing something from someone that you know a lot about and you know that they're wrong, all this requires a lot of restraint. So that's why I was really excited to talk to today's guest because he's one of the best people in the world at this. If you've watched The Daily Show anytime in basically the last decade or so, you've probably seen Jordan Klepper. You've either seen him as a correspondent or you've seen him more recently as a host where he is absolutely crushing it. You've definitely seen his viral interviews at political rallies and and protests. Here's a little jump cut of him being very good at what he does. Barack Obama had big part of nine eleven. Which part? Not being around, always on vacation, never in the office. Why do you think Barack Obama wasn't in the Oval Office on 09:11? That, I don't know. We'd like to get to the bottom of that. We don't even know if he's ever citizen. Yeah. Yeah. If you if you don't look at the birth certificate, there's almost no evidence there. Exactly. So there's nothing Barack Obama could do to prove that he was born here? If there was maybe witnesses that were attendants at his birth, Like his mother? Would you listen to his mother? No. No. She has motivation to lie. So you don't trust, Donald Trump's birth certificate either? Yeah. Because he's been here forever. Well, how do you know? But how do you what's your proof? Well, his parents and But no. But they they're biased. I'm talking about, like, people who could be the real They'd be …