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Can a Bad Man Be a Good Father?

46 min episode · 2 min read

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46 min

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2 min

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Relationships, Fundraising & VC, Leadership

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Key Takeaways

  • Secrets as bonding mechanisms: Children who discover a parent's hidden life often become involuntary keepers of those secrets, which paradoxically deepens the bond. Junod sensed his father's first affair at age three, confirmed it at sixteen, and spent decades protecting his father's reputation — a dynamic that shaped his emotional development more than any explicit lesson.
  • Identity constructed from cultural models: When a father figure is absent or inadequate, men often build their masculine identity from external cultural templates. Lou Junod, raised in Brooklyn without a functional father, modeled his entire persona — speech, dress, seduction tactics — on 1930s Hollywood actors like Cary Grant and Clark Gable, demonstrating how pop culture fills parental voids.
  • Inheritance beyond genetics: Children absorb not just traits but entire frameworks for engaging with the world from flawed parents. Junod credits his father directly for his love of language, music, writing, and his instinct toward generosity — suggesting that evaluating a parent's legacy requires separating moral failures from the genuine capacities they transfer.
  • Pursuing uncomfortable truths completes grief: After his father's death at 87, Junod actively contacted former lovers and their families, ultimately locating a half-sister named Lizanne running a food truck at the University of Connecticut. DNA confirmation arrived Christmas Eve 2022. Pursuing rather than suppressing family secrets can resolve long-standing emotional ambiguity that outlives the person who created it.
  • Reconciling love with moral failure: Junod frames the question of whether a bad man can be a good father not as binary but as layered. Lou was attentive, physically affectionate, and formative — while simultaneously a compulsive gambler, serial philanderer, and keeper of a secret child. Holding both realities simultaneously, rather than collapsing into one verdict, is presented as the more honest position.

What It Covers

Writer Tom Junod speaks with Michael Barbaro about his memoir investigating his father Lou — a charismatic, philandering handbag salesman who earned $250,000 annually at his peak — revealing how decades of uncovered secrets, including a previously unknown half-sister, reshaped Junod's understanding of fatherhood, masculinity, and inherited identity.

Key Questions Answered

  • Secrets as bonding mechanisms: Children who discover a parent's hidden life often become involuntary keepers of those secrets, which paradoxically deepens the bond. Junod sensed his father's first affair at age three, confirmed it at sixteen, and spent decades protecting his father's reputation — a dynamic that shaped his emotional development more than any explicit lesson.
  • Identity constructed from cultural models: When a father figure is absent or inadequate, men often build their masculine identity from external cultural templates. Lou Junod, raised in Brooklyn without a functional father, modeled his entire persona — speech, dress, seduction tactics — on 1930s Hollywood actors like Cary Grant and Clark Gable, demonstrating how pop culture fills parental voids.
  • Inheritance beyond genetics: Children absorb not just traits but entire frameworks for engaging with the world from flawed parents. Junod credits his father directly for his love of language, music, writing, and his instinct toward generosity — suggesting that evaluating a parent's legacy requires separating moral failures from the genuine capacities they transfer.
  • Pursuing uncomfortable truths completes grief: After his father's death at 87, Junod actively contacted former lovers and their families, ultimately locating a half-sister named Lizanne running a food truck at the University of Connecticut. DNA confirmation arrived Christmas Eve 2022. Pursuing rather than suppressing family secrets can resolve long-standing emotional ambiguity that outlives the person who created it.
  • Reconciling love with moral failure: Junod frames the question of whether a bad man can be a good father not as binary but as layered. Lou was attentive, physically affectionate, and formative — while simultaneously a compulsive gambler, serial philanderer, and keeper of a secret child. Holding both realities simultaneously, rather than collapsing into one verdict, is presented as the more honest position.

Notable Moment

At his father's funeral, a tall woman Junod had never met stood up uninvited and delivered a single declarative sentence affirming Lou's masculinity. She later turned out to be yet another long-term affair partner — her presence revealing a secret life that extended even into the funeral itself.

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Episode Transcript

On TikTok, entire communities are turning curiosity into connection. History lovers share stories that bring the past into focus. Scientists and educators break down big ideas with experiments and insights that make discovery feel approachable. And across art, language, and everyday tips, people on TikTok give fresh perspective on the world we share. TikTok is a place for curiosity, where learning is fun, connection is meaningful, and discovery never stops. From the New York Times, I'm Michael Barbaro. This is The Daily on Sunday. The writer, Tom Junot, is a student of flawed men. In a long and varied career in American magazines at places like GQ and Esquire, Tom profiled complicated figures like Norman Mailer, Kevin Spacey, and Tony Curtis. But in all of those profiles, another flawed man loomed in the background. One who informed how Tom thought about the very nature of masculinity and manhood. And that was his father, Lou. A man who had a life full of secrets. Tom's relationship with his dad is the subject of his new book, which is part memoir and part detective story. It's called In the Days of My Youth, I Was Told What It Means to Be a Man. And it's a powerful meditation on what we need from a father, what we inherit from a father, and how we somehow make peace with the gap in between those. Today, on Father's Day, my conversation with Tom Junot. It's Sunday, June 21. Tom. Michael. Welcome to the Sunday Daily. It's so great to be here. It's an honor to have you. Can I ask you to read from the eulogy that you read at your father's funeral? Sure. I believe it's on page four. Yeah. So the, the eulogy had a title, If you're gonna be a bear, be a grizzly, and that was one of my dad's sayings. My father, dad, pop up, was not like other fathers. He was not like other people, period. A lot of people have told me that he's with Jesus now. Well, with all due respect, I have my doubts, unless, of course, Jesus has shaved his beard, ditched the sandals, and is drinking a martini at the El Morocco circa 1955 with Frank and Eva. This is not to say my father was not a believer. He had a whole belief system. He believed in a lot of things, and what he believed in, he believed in absolutely. He believed that there was not a person in the world whose appearance could not be helped by exposure to the sun or what he called a fresh burn. He believed that there was not an ailment in the world that could not be cured by salt water. He believed that the way Rhett Butler treated Scarlett was the way all women should be treated, and that Clark Gable was robbed when he didn't win the Oscar for best actor in 1939. He believed that the lottery was a game of skill …

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    Writer Tom Junod speaks with Michael Barbaro about his memoir investigating his father Lou — a charismatic, philandering handbag salesman who earned $250,000 annually at his peak — revealing how decades of uncovered secrets, including a previously unknown half-sister, reshaped Junod's understanding of fatherhood, masculinity, and inherited identity.

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