Agentic infra changes everything (Interview)

Welcome everyone. I'm Jared and you are listening to the change log where each week Adam and I interview the hackers, the leaders, and the innovators of the software world. We pick their brains, we learn from their failures, we get inspired by their accomplishments, and we try to have a little fun along the way. On this episode, it's Adam Jacob, long time open source community member, founder of Chef, and now System Initiative. Adam joins us to discuss how agentic systems for building and managing infrastructure have fundamentally altered how he thinks about everything, including the last six years of his life. Along the way, Adam opines on the recent AWS outage. He debates whether or not we are in an AI induced bubble. He quells any concerns of AGI and a robot uprising. He eats some humble pie and more. But first, a big thank you to our partners at fly.io, the public cloud built for developers who ship. We love fly. You might too. Learn more at fly.io. Okay. Adam Jacob back on the change log. Let's do it. Well, friends, I don't know about you, but something bothers me about getting up actions. I love the fact that it's there. I love the fact that it's so ubiquitous. I love the fact that agents that do my coding for me believe that my CICD workflow begins with drafting TOML files for GitHub Actions. That's great. It's all great until, yes, until your builds start moving like molasses. GitHub Actions is slow. It's just the way it is. That's how it works. I'm sorry. But I'm not sorry because our friends at Namespace, they fix that. Yes. We use namespacespace. So to do all of our builds so much faster. Namespace is like GitHub actions, but faster. I mean, like, way faster. It caches everything smartly. It caches your dependencies, your docker layers, your build artifacts, so your CI can run super fast. You get shorter feedback loops, happier developers because we love our time, and you get fewer, I'll be back after this coffee and my build finishes. So that's that's not cool. The best part is it's drop in. It works right alongside your your existing GitHub actions with almost zero config. It's a one line change. So you can speed up your builds, you can delight your team, and you can finally stop pretending that build time is focus time. It's not. Learn more. Go to namespace.so. That's namespace.so. Just like it sounds, like it said. Go there. Check them out. We use them. We love them, and you should too. Namespace.so. We're back with our good friend, Adam Jacob. And Adam, there's always something. Some sort of outage around our conversations, some sort of big event. There's something in open source. There's a debacle. There's a an outage in the case of AWS recently. And I actually was, at my son's ninja training last night and overheard a parent discuss the AWS …