Small AI Models with Yoeven Khemlani

Jigsawstack is a startup that develops a suite of custom small models for tasks such as scraping, forecasting, VOCR, and translation. The platform is designed to support collaborative knowledge work, especially in research heavy or strategy driven environments. Yovan Kamlani is the founder of Jigsaw Stack, and he joins the podcast with Gregor Van to talk about making use of small models for diverse applications. Gregor Vann is a CTO and founder, currently working at the intersection of communication, security, and AI, and is based in Singapore. His latest venture, wintik.ai, reimagines what email can be in the AI era. For more on Gregor, find him at van.hk or on LinkedIn. Hi. Welcome to Software Engineering Daily. My guest today is Juergen Kemlani. Welcome, Juergen. Hey. Hey. Good to be here. So, Juergen, you are the founder of Jigsaw Stack, a ultimately, Singapore company, but you're now in The US, which is pretty well trodden path, I think, for this part of the world. So before we get into Jigsaw Stack, which, I cannot wait to get into, it's a very interesting product and very timely. I'd love to just hear a bit more about your background. I know this is, as I say, not your first rodeo when it comes to having founded a company. So, yeah, just tell us about your journey to Jigsawstack. Yeah. I think it didn't start very exciting or it's like every other engineer. So I'm an engineer like everyone else. I love building products. I love exploring new technologies and that's kind of like where I started. So I started as a game developer, which many choose not to take that path because it's one of the hardest industries to kind of break into from a revenue standpoint or for like a salary standpoint, like your initial career, but something I enjoyed did that for a bit. Love building, did love the industry, went into like the banking industry, didn't love the corporate industry, decided to leave that. And as I went to study my master's at Imperial, COVID hit right at the right moment. So I decided to drop out. I didn't want to pay with $200,000 just to sit in my dorm room. So I decided to drop out and eventually that's when I got inspired to start this company called Stay Our way back. I think it's like four years ago. It was a hotel aggregation company in Southeast Asia that basically did shop in bookings for, like, the pool, the gym, and different things within the hotel because domestic markets were growing at back then. Then that grew to a point. We went into co working spaces and then eventually we sold it. And I think that kind of kicked off my path of like, okay, startups is like where I want to be. I love building and I love building for people. Right. It's like, how can I make money from the things that I build? And that's …