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661: Working Vacations, Ripping Out JavaScript, and Non-US Cloud Service Options

58 min episode · 2 min read

Episode

58 min

Read time

2 min

Topics

Design & UX, Psychology & Behavior, Philosophy & Wisdom

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Key Takeaways

  • Non-US hosting alternatives: European-alternatives.eu catalogs replacements for US services like GitHub, Netlify, and Firebase. Consider latency impacts on customer experience and whether boycotting US companies aligns with values versus punishing specific corporate behaviors rather than geography.
  • Polyfill removal strategy: Most polyfills check browser support in first lines and skip execution if unnecessary, making removal less urgent. Cost is mainly download time since cached files execute instantly. Remove polyfills when code is meaningfully touched, not via calendar appointments.
  • CSS shape function: Safari 18.4 introduces shape function that converts SVG path syntax to CSS-friendly units supporting rems, custom properties, calc, and container queries. Unlike path function's unitless pixels, shape enables responsive vector clipping with any CSS unit for clip-path applications.
  • Design gilding principle: Start with solid foundational design before adding decorative touches. Add one thoughtful detail like art-directed SVG titles or custom link styles rather than overworking every page. Small efforts like Google Font outlines as SVG titles cost minimal effort but differentiate content.

What It Covers

Shop Talk Show explores European alternatives to US-based cloud services, CSS polyfill strategies for removing deprecated code, the new CSS shape function in Safari 18.4, and design philosophy around gilding lilies.

Key Questions Answered

  • Non-US hosting alternatives: European-alternatives.eu catalogs replacements for US services like GitHub, Netlify, and Firebase. Consider latency impacts on customer experience and whether boycotting US companies aligns with values versus punishing specific corporate behaviors rather than geography.
  • Polyfill removal strategy: Most polyfills check browser support in first lines and skip execution if unnecessary, making removal less urgent. Cost is mainly download time since cached files execute instantly. Remove polyfills when code is meaningfully touched, not via calendar appointments.
  • CSS shape function: Safari 18.4 introduces shape function that converts SVG path syntax to CSS-friendly units supporting rems, custom properties, calc, and container queries. Unlike path function's unitless pixels, shape enables responsive vector clipping with any CSS unit for clip-path applications.
  • Design gilding principle: Start with solid foundational design before adding decorative touches. Add one thoughtful detail like art-directed SVG titles or custom link styles rather than overworking every page. Small efforts like Google Font outlines as SVG titles cost minimal effort but differentiate content.

Notable Moment

The discussion reveals how polyfills often include browser support checks that prevent code execution in modern browsers, meaning developers can delay removal without performance penalties beyond initial download costs, which are mitigated by caching.

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Episode Transcript

Hey there, ShopWithMex here listening to another episode of the Shop, Talk, Show podcast all about front end website development. A lot of AI. Just probably forty five minutes of AI. Just that's what's, you know, within the trend. So whoops. So just kidding. There's none about AI in this week's episode. Although, it does seem to seems to seems to come up, you know, but, I don't have any plan to do it this particular time. Yeah. I do, I do feel like I want to issue a correction. We're talking about state of the browser comp last time. We were saying, hey, we were talking about conferences, why they don't exist anymore. And I said Dave Story put on, the the, say, the browser comp. It was Dave Littori. I apologize there. Dave is great. And, yeah. So Dave Story is a JavaScript developer. Dave Littore is also a JavaScript developer if I put some, the state of the browser. So there you go. Just wanted to issue that correction, make it right. So Yeah. Sounds good. I think we might just dip in the old mailbag this time. Like, they're all click and clank roots. You know? I I put one in here that was a little old that I've been sitting on because I'm like, oh, I don't know how to I don't know if I have anything useful to say about it here. It's from, Powell Rosen who, wanted to hear about alternatives to US based cloud services, which I thought was kind of just interesting. You know? With all that's going on, like stuff like the tariffs and people being pretty upset about that and rightfully so, looks like that just was just dropped in our laps, and a lot of the world is, confused and angry and stuff about that, me included for sure, that there's a little bit of, like, screw The US sentiment in there internationally. And so why not? You know, like, if you're looking around for a company to be used, the Internet is super international. Why not pick a company that isn't US based if that's how you're feeling at the moment? I don't blame you necessarily. So for Paul, that says that would be stuff like GitHub and Netlify and whatever, Firebase, stuff like that that are those are companies that are US based, to some degree. What do you like, that's the stuff that I'm like, I don't know. What's the European GitHub? I don't know. You know? I know there's, like, GitLab and stuff. But is is that US too? Like, you'd have to just sit down and and just research it. And, I'm not above that, I guess, for the show. I just haven't done that. I didn't have any particular need to in my day to day work at the moment. But then I was browsing around or whatever, just reading my RSSs or whatever I do. I can't I can't remember exactly …

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    Small efforts like Google Font outlines as SVG titles cost minimal effort but differentiate content.

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    Safari 18.4 introduces shape function that converts SVG path syntax to CSS-friendly units supporting rems, custom properties, calc, and container queries.

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