658: Andy Bell on Working with Clients, Writing, and Building Courses for Web Builders

Hey there. ShopUp Miniacs. You are listening to another episode of the ShopUp Miniacs. All about friend and web design, development, everything like that. With me is Chris Coyier. Hey, Chris. Hey. How are you doing? We actually have another special guest, long time friend friend of the show, friend in real life, Andy Bell. How are you doing, Andy? Good to have you. Yeah. Good to have you here again. It's good. Yeah. Funny. It's just it's it's fun to watch watch Andy's story evolve. You, got into to, you know, studio work and client work, who knows, a long time ago now, but run a studio called setstudio, literally set.studio, killer killer URL. Can't forget it. Killer cross tag. Yeah. Yeah. Fair enough. I heard the fonts weren't cheap either. Is it one of those domains where it's, like, nine dollars the first year and 199 the next year? I have to remortgage every year to renew it. Yeah. Yeah. I bet. Yeah. I have to we have to make a little case internally for pen dot new every year because I feel like we have all kinds of dumb expenses at Copen, but I kinda it's my pet one. You know? Like, I like that URL, and I see it enough because I'm like, you know, I'm a little more I'm man of the community. You know? I use all the time, Chris. Yeah. So please There you go. I'm gonna cut out that clip. It's just for you. I'm like, I will put this on my personal credit card if I have to. We are keeping it. I almost don't know how to make a pen beyond pen dot new. Now that I have my pen dot new. My sound bite's longer now. Yeah. Even the spreadsheet, she's not new. You know? Like, it's Oh my god. They're so useful. Those demands. We had some people at the Discord, like, brainstorming what else we could do with it. And I was like I was like, you need to simmer down because we're not the fastest at shipping. But it was like it was like it was like pen dot new slash and then, like, any string. And they're like, if you're logged in, it will fuzzy search your pens to find the closest matching pen and make a template from that to use, you know. So you could just be like, you know, pen dot new slash d three, and it would find, like, your best d three pen and and then start start the new pen from now. It's like, actually, it's like an amazing idea. But Kinda like mdn.io/ whatever MDN thing you're looking for. Are you blowing minds right now, Dave? Oh, you're not used to that. Yeah. You go mdn.io/ whatever observer or, what's the one I don't remember? Intersection observer, and it'll just pull up go take you straight to the docs. It looks like it does a hop on duck …