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Episode 396: Theresa Ebden - Protecting Investors at the OSC

64 min episode · 3 min read
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Theresa Ebden

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64 min

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3 min

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Career Growth, Health & Wellness, Personal Finance

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Key Takeaways

  • AI-Enhanced Fraud Detection: The OSC's takedown service deactivated 3,900 fake investment platforms and cryptocurrency scam websites between June and November 2023. AI enables fraudsters to create polished, grammatically correct scams at scale, removing traditional red flags like poor formatting. System-level mitigations like browser plugins and platform warnings can reduce scam investments by up to 31 percent, while pre-exposure education about AI scam tactics significantly reduces susceptibility through inoculation effects.
  • Financial Influencer Impact: Research shows 35 percent of respondents made financial decisions based on influencer advice, with 24 percent of those exposed to influencer-style posts buying promoted assets versus only 7 percent unexposed. Non-investors are 12.2 times more likely to have been scammed on social media and five times more likely to trade frequently. Those following influencer advice are three times less likely to work with registered financial advisors and twice as likely to have experienced significant investment losses.
  • Gamification Effects on Trading: Trading platforms using gamification techniques increase trading frequency, which correlates with lower returns, and create herding effects where investors gravitate toward promoted securities. However, positive gamification can increase portfolio diversification by 3.5 to 4.5 percent. Effective mitigations include requiring opt-in rather than automatic enrollment, displaying risk disclosures about gamification techniques, and implementing confirmation screens that create positive friction to encourage deliberation before trades.
  • Relationship Investment Scams: Long-haul scams involve fraudsters building trust over extended periods before introducing investment opportunities, often starting with small amounts like one hundred dollars. These operations use sophisticated dashboards managing 20 to 30 simultaneous conversations, with AI translators and specialized teams handling different stages from initial contact through voice communication to investment solicitation and recovery room schemes. Victims are particularly vulnerable due to loneliness and isolation rather than greed.
  • Investor Contact Center Data: The OSC processes 10,000 cases annually through their contact center, with 75 percent from market participants and a significant portion fraud-related. Data flows directly into strategic priorities, with weekly manager meetings identifying trends. When recovery room scams increased, the center created example calls, developed educational materials, and coordinated policy responses like the trusted contact person initiative, demonstrating how frontline data drives regulatory action.

What It Covers

Theresa Ebden from the Ontario Securities Commission explains how the OSC protects retail investors through education, research, and regulation. The conversation covers AI-enhanced scams, financial influencer impact, gamification in trading apps, and practical fraud prevention strategies. The OSC's GetSmarterAboutMoney.ca receives nearly 5 million annual visits providing free financial literacy resources in 23 languages.

Key Questions Answered

  • AI-Enhanced Fraud Detection: The OSC's takedown service deactivated 3,900 fake investment platforms and cryptocurrency scam websites between June and November 2023. AI enables fraudsters to create polished, grammatically correct scams at scale, removing traditional red flags like poor formatting. System-level mitigations like browser plugins and platform warnings can reduce scam investments by up to 31 percent, while pre-exposure education about AI scam tactics significantly reduces susceptibility through inoculation effects.
  • Financial Influencer Impact: Research shows 35 percent of respondents made financial decisions based on influencer advice, with 24 percent of those exposed to influencer-style posts buying promoted assets versus only 7 percent unexposed. Non-investors are 12.2 times more likely to have been scammed on social media and five times more likely to trade frequently. Those following influencer advice are three times less likely to work with registered financial advisors and twice as likely to have experienced significant investment losses.
  • Gamification Effects on Trading: Trading platforms using gamification techniques increase trading frequency, which correlates with lower returns, and create herding effects where investors gravitate toward promoted securities. However, positive gamification can increase portfolio diversification by 3.5 to 4.5 percent. Effective mitigations include requiring opt-in rather than automatic enrollment, displaying risk disclosures about gamification techniques, and implementing confirmation screens that create positive friction to encourage deliberation before trades.
  • Relationship Investment Scams: Long-haul scams involve fraudsters building trust over extended periods before introducing investment opportunities, often starting with small amounts like one hundred dollars. These operations use sophisticated dashboards managing 20 to 30 simultaneous conversations, with AI translators and specialized teams handling different stages from initial contact through voice communication to investment solicitation and recovery room schemes. Victims are particularly vulnerable due to loneliness and isolation rather than greed.
  • Investor Contact Center Data: The OSC processes 10,000 cases annually through their contact center, with 75 percent from market participants and a significant portion fraud-related. Data flows directly into strategic priorities, with weekly manager meetings identifying trends. When recovery room scams increased, the center created example calls, developed educational materials, and coordinated policy responses like the trusted contact person initiative, demonstrating how frontline data drives regulatory action.
  • Verification Before Investing: Investors should use CheckBeforeYouInvest.ca to confirm registration status of advisors, independently verify investment legitimacy using trusted sources, and document all details in writing. Be suspicious of unsolicited offers, guaranteed returns outside GICs, exclusive AI opportunities, and highly emotional language creating urgency. Seek second opinions from registered professionals and trusted contacts, spending more time researching investments than choosing household appliances to reduce fraud vulnerability.

Notable Moment

Felix shares his experience being impersonated by AI scammers who created deepfake videos using his likeness to promote fraudulent schemes on his own YouTube channel. Sophisticated viewers sent screenshots to verify the scam, but the incident highlights how fraudsters exploit trusted personalities at scale. Ebden recommends reporting to police, the Canadian Anti-Fraud Center, and platform providers, noting even regulators face impersonation attempts.

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Episode Transcript

This is the Rational Reminder podcast, a weekly reality check on sensible investing and financial decision making from two Canadians. We're hosted by me, Benjamin Felix, chief investment officer and Dan Bortolotti, portfolio manager at PWL Capital. Welcome to number three ninety six. Getting closer and closer to that 400 episode milestone. An arbitrary milestone that we have nothing special planned for. That's right. Yes. But we still have time. So today, we welcomed Teresa Evdin, who is the vice president of the investor office at the Ontario Securities Commission. If that doesn't sound exciting, I want everyone to know that Ross, who listeners will know from our year end episode where you got to hear Ross from One Digital, who sits in on our episode recordings to make sure they are compliant. As a compliance person, Ross was on the edge of his seat for the whole discussion. I think that's important to point out for listeners. Now, we had a fantastic conversation with Teresa, the Ontario Securities Commission. It's a really interesting organization and Teresa introduces a little bit about who they are and what they do. They're a securities regulator obviously in Ontario but they do a lot of really, really interesting work on investor research and outreach education. Between those two things they've produced just a tremendous amount of really, really high quality content both really high quality research papers, but also retail investor focused educational material through their their getsmarteraboutmoney.ca website, which we talk about during the conversation and you'll hear me get excited about it because I really do think it's a fantastic website. So we talked a little bit about who the OSC are and what they do. We talked about some of their research on finfluencers and I was interested to find out Dan that I am in fact a finfluencer. I think you are too. Well, I don't know. I feel honored to have that label bestowed on me. And as we're gonna talk about a little bit, one of the hazards of being a influencer is you are a target for fraud. So we're gonna get into that a little bit, share a little bit of a personal story that you had, Ben. Interesting messages to get from people that I was being impersonated. Anyway, so we talked about influencers and and just the role that they're playing in retail investing and how people are consuming the advice and being influenced by the advice from influencers. We talked about AI, the example you just mentioned, Dan, and some of the other ways that it's being used. A lot about scams, which I think Ross mentioned that's one of the parts that he really enjoyed. From a compliance and sort of regulation perspective, just what can we do about that in terms of investor education and and mitigations. And we talk about gamification, which is one that people think about scams as, oh, yeah. Like, you got scammed, but gamification are …

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    by Ontario Securities Commission

    Investors should use CheckBeforeYouInvest.ca to confirm registration status of advisors, independently verify investment legitimacy using trusted sources, and document all details in writing.
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    by Ontario Securities Commission

    The OSC's GetSmarterAboutMoney.ca receives nearly 5 million annual visits providing free financial literacy resources in 23 languages.

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