The Rise of the Full-Stack Builder and Hyper-Leveraged Generalist with Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella

The world is gonna be very skeptical of tech and tech companies that say, trust us. We've got it. The future is gonna be glorious. You kinda have to deliver tangible benefits because it's too important this time around. It's too much of the economy for it not to be the case. True ambition is about making the impossible possible. I take great inspiration from sort of the people who were managing the Azure network. We built in the last fifteen months more Azure capacity than we built in the first fifteen years. I mean, it's crazy. Wild. Our job is not to do Azure networking. Our job is to build the agentic system that does Azure networking. Right? The way to get to information, way to educate yourself, way to continuously keep yourself updated has changed so much. Maybe the next big start up could be someone who builds a new university, a new pedagogy even of how to get someone to go through a curriculum and find economic opportunity that's highly valuable. Please welcome Swyx Saragawa Allad Gil and Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Microsoft Satya Nadella. Hello. I'm so excited to be here. Welcome to a crossover episode of no priors in lane space with Saeed Nadella. Congratulations on an amazing build. No. Thank you so much, and it's great to be with both of you. I listen to both of you or both the podcast all the time. It's great to be on it. Thank you so much. So you're just talking about, these amazing, announcements from across the Microsoft estate all morning for, I think, three hours. What is the, what's the most important reflection or takeaway you have? I I'd say there are, perhaps the the biggest one for me is let's sort of conceptualize this more as an ecosystem play as opposed to a single model or even a single platform. Right? I mean, yeah, whenever I at least for me having grown up at Microsoft, having seen whatever four major platform shifts, I sort of fall into that, camp where a platform is defined by fundamentally its ability to create more value about the platform versus what's captured in the platform. And so if you view what's happening right now, I think this morning's keynote was, how can any company, whether it's an AI native company or a traditional enterprise company, participate as a first class participant where they can point to AI they create. Right? It's not that they don't use other people's AI. Of course, they will. But to me, what's the path? What's the recipe? How do I do it? What does the stack look like? What does the tooling look like? What is valuable? How do you do that? That's it. That's sort of our job to do. Yeah. Ecosystem strategy is, very complicated. Right? Because you end up building certain components, partnering for certain components, supporting them. You just announced this big suite of models. Like, …