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Resurrecting dire wolves is just the beginning for Colossal Biosciences’ Ben Lamm

33 min episode · 2 min read
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Episode

33 min

Read time

2 min

Topics

Science & Discovery

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Key Takeaways

  • Functional De-Extinction Process: Extract ancient DNA from fossils, compare genomes to closest living relatives, edit 15+ genes using CRISPR, clone via somatic cell nuclear transfer, implant in surrogate species. Dire wolves share 99.5% DNA with gray wolves, requiring minimal edits to key phenotype genes.
  • Revenue Model Strategy: Generate income through technology spinouts (Form Bio worth $100M+), future rewilding revenue via carbon credits and biodiversity credits, and conservation tool licensing. Currently pre-revenue but valued at $10 billion after three years, with founder believing company worth $100 billion long-term.
  • Blood-Based Cloning Innovation: Developed technique to clone endangered species from simple blood draws instead of invasive skin biopsies or anesthetization. Applied to red wolves (most endangered wolf globally with only 15 remaining) to create four new individuals, improving animal welfare during genetic rescue operations.
  • Conservation Technology Transfer: All technology developed for de-extinction gets shared free with conservation partners. Separately raised $50 million for Colossal Foundation to fund academic research. Working on elephant herpes virus vaccine that could save more elephants than all previous conservation efforts combined if successful.

What It Covers

Ben Lamm, CEO of Colossal Biosciences, explains how his company resurrected dire wolves using ancient DNA and gene editing, achieving a $10 billion valuation in three years while pursuing woolly mammoths and conservation applications.

Key Questions Answered

  • Functional De-Extinction Process: Extract ancient DNA from fossils, compare genomes to closest living relatives, edit 15+ genes using CRISPR, clone via somatic cell nuclear transfer, implant in surrogate species. Dire wolves share 99.5% DNA with gray wolves, requiring minimal edits to key phenotype genes.
  • Revenue Model Strategy: Generate income through technology spinouts (Form Bio worth $100M+), future rewilding revenue via carbon credits and biodiversity credits, and conservation tool licensing. Currently pre-revenue but valued at $10 billion after three years, with founder believing company worth $100 billion long-term.
  • Blood-Based Cloning Innovation: Developed technique to clone endangered species from simple blood draws instead of invasive skin biopsies or anesthetization. Applied to red wolves (most endangered wolf globally with only 15 remaining) to create four new individuals, improving animal welfare during genetic rescue operations.
  • Conservation Technology Transfer: All technology developed for de-extinction gets shared free with conservation partners. Separately raised $50 million for Colossal Foundation to fund academic research. Working on elephant herpes virus vaccine that could save more elephants than all previous conservation efforts combined if successful.

Notable Moment

Lamm reveals the company created more critically endangered red wolves than dire wolves using their new cloning method, but the conservation breakthrough received minimal attention because red wolves lack the cultural appeal of Game of Thrones creatures.

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