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What if Trump does roll back steel and aluminum tariffs?

25 min episode · 2 min read
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Dina Schenker

Episode

25 min

Read time

2 min

Topics

Career Growth, Health & Wellness, Investing

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Key Takeaways

  • Manufacturing Employment Lag: New manufacturing orders increased for the first time since August according to Institute for Supply Management surveys, but employment continues shrinking. Manufacturers respond to demand increases by adding shifts and overtime before making permanent hiring decisions. Tariff uncertainty freezes expansion plans even as favorable tax environment and lower interest rates could boost demand for appliances, vehicles, and AI data center equipment throughout the year.
  • Steel Tariff Impact Scope: Steel and aluminum appear throughout supply chains in products from cars to paper production, where metal blades cut trees and metal-laden trucks transport logs. However, eliminating all metal tariffs would produce minimal grocery store price changes. The largest consumer pain points in healthcare, housing, and food costs contain relatively small metal components, limiting potential savings from tariff rollbacks on household budgets.
  • GLP-1 Dining Paradox: Households with at least one GLP-1 user spend more on restaurant meals despite reduced appetite. Users report decreased food noise and meal planning thoughts, leading to unprepared dinnertime situations that push families toward restaurants. Restaurants adapt with customizable menus allowing protein, base, and side selection. Del Taco introduced micro meals with mini burritos and single donut bites, while Cuba Libre created specific GLP-1 menus using existing kitchen ingredients.
  • Open Market Operations Mechanics: When the Federal Open Market Committee changes rates, the New York Fed trading desk receives implementation notes with specific instructions like purchasing Treasury bills with three-year or shorter maturities to maintain ample reserves. The desk operates throughout US trading sessions and staffs twenty-four hours during market events, executing trades and analyzing market conditions to inform future policy decisions beyond rate announcement days.
  • Factory Closure Community Impact: Campbell's closing the Cape Cod chip factory in Hyannis eliminates 49 jobs and moves production to Wisconsin, North Carolina, and Pennsylvania facilities. American food factory jobs provide upward mobility opportunities for workers. The founder's daughter describes the factory as community anchor since the early 1980s. Cape Cod chips remain available nationally but lose local manufacturing connection after Campbell acquired the brand in 2018.

What It Covers

This episode examines potential rollback of steel and aluminum tariffs and their impact on consumer goods, manufacturing employment trends amid tariff uncertainty, how GLP-1 weight loss drug users spend more on dining out, Federal Reserve open market operations between policy meetings, and Cape Cod chip factory closure ending local production.

Key Questions Answered

  • Manufacturing Employment Lag: New manufacturing orders increased for the first time since August according to Institute for Supply Management surveys, but employment continues shrinking. Manufacturers respond to demand increases by adding shifts and overtime before making permanent hiring decisions. Tariff uncertainty freezes expansion plans even as favorable tax environment and lower interest rates could boost demand for appliances, vehicles, and AI data center equipment throughout the year.
  • Steel Tariff Impact Scope: Steel and aluminum appear throughout supply chains in products from cars to paper production, where metal blades cut trees and metal-laden trucks transport logs. However, eliminating all metal tariffs would produce minimal grocery store price changes. The largest consumer pain points in healthcare, housing, and food costs contain relatively small metal components, limiting potential savings from tariff rollbacks on household budgets.
  • GLP-1 Dining Paradox: Households with at least one GLP-1 user spend more on restaurant meals despite reduced appetite. Users report decreased food noise and meal planning thoughts, leading to unprepared dinnertime situations that push families toward restaurants. Restaurants adapt with customizable menus allowing protein, base, and side selection. Del Taco introduced micro meals with mini burritos and single donut bites, while Cuba Libre created specific GLP-1 menus using existing kitchen ingredients.
  • Open Market Operations Mechanics: When the Federal Open Market Committee changes rates, the New York Fed trading desk receives implementation notes with specific instructions like purchasing Treasury bills with three-year or shorter maturities to maintain ample reserves. The desk operates throughout US trading sessions and staffs twenty-four hours during market events, executing trades and analyzing market conditions to inform future policy decisions beyond rate announcement days.
  • Factory Closure Community Impact: Campbell's closing the Cape Cod chip factory in Hyannis eliminates 49 jobs and moves production to Wisconsin, North Carolina, and Pennsylvania facilities. American food factory jobs provide upward mobility opportunities for workers. The founder's daughter describes the factory as community anchor since the early 1980s. Cape Cod chips remain available nationally but lose local manufacturing connection after Campbell acquired the brand in 2018.

Notable Moment

Cape Cod Chips ran a promotional campaign when Seinfeld ended, offering free chip bags to anyone who sent them nothing, referencing the show about nothing. The company received thousands of submissions including empty envelopes, blank cassette tapes, and large boxes filled only with air, demonstrating creative marketing that built brand connection during the 1990s.

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Episode Transcript

Programming supported by Minnesota Carlson and their first Tuesday speaker series at the University of Minnesota, featuring candid conversations with some of the biggest names in business. More at z.umn.edu/firsttuesday. This marketplace podcast is supported by Viking, committed to exploring the world in comfort. Journey through the heart of Europe on an elegant Viking longship with thoughtful service, destination focused dining, and cultural enrichment on board and onshore. And every Viking voyage is all inclusive with no children and no casinos. Discover more at viking.com. Holiday week or not, the economy doesn't stop, and neither does the flow of economic data. From American Public Media, this is Marketplace. In New York, I'm Kristen Schwab in for Kyra's Dahl. It's Monday, February 16. Good to be here with you. It's just one of those weeks that can only be described as a data dump. We're going to get the latest GDP figures on Friday and a bunch of numbers about housing, consumer spending, and inflation along the way. Let's take it one day at a time, though. Tomorrow comes manufacturing data from the Federal Reserve and some of its regional banks. Early indications suggest manufacturing activity has been picking up so far in 2026. Marketplace's Justin Ho looks into whether that could continue and whether that could translate into more manufacturing employment. Last year wasn't exactly a stable one for the manufacturing sector, thanks to tariffs, high interest rates, and a shaky global economy. But this year, manufacturers have a few things working for them, says Scott Paul, president of the Alliance for American Manufacturing. The tax environment is favorable. If interest rates at least stabilize, there'll be some relief for consumers and for businesses. Paul says lower interest rates might spur more demand for appliances, vehicles, and other manufactured goods. Plus, the big wave of AI investment will push up demand for the equipment that goes into data centers. So I think there's a lot of potential areas for growth that could aid in the demand for manufacturing as well. Manufacturers surveyed by the Institute for Supply Management last month said new orders picked up for the first time since August, but the same report found that employment shrank at the same time. Even if new orders come back, it's gonna be a bit before folks start being comfortable making permanent decisions like hiring people. Susan Spence is chair of ISM's manufacturing business survey committee. She says the big factor causing manufacturers to hold off is tariff uncertainty. That's kind of frozen action on folks to say we don't know where the next one's coming from. And even if something gets struck down, if the administration turns around and levies it in a different way, we're in this for a while. Spence says manufacturers have also just been through a year of slow demand, so they have plenty of capacity to make goods without hiring new staff. They can, you know, put additional shifts on or pay overtime. And I …

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