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Key insights include: **ICE Operational Standards:** Federal agents now deploy masked personnel using flashbang grenades on peaceful protesters, hauling citizens and immigrants from vehicles without probable cause, and using children as negotiation leverage—tactics Harris compares to policing under dictatorships rather than democratic norms that should trigger bipartisan alarm regardless of immigration policy preferences.; **Government Misinformation Response:** After the Renee Goode shooting, Trump, the vice president, and Kristi Noem immediately labeled her a terrorist attempting to kill agents despite video evidence from three angles contradicting this claim. No officials issued corrections or apologies, demonstrating contempt for accountability that Harris identifies as characteristic of authoritarian communication patterns.; **Protest Strategy Effectiveness:** Demonstrators should maintain civility and avoid oppressive tactics like confronting uninvolved citizens in cafes or blocking their daily activities. Historical Black Lives Matter struggle sessions that forced public compliance proved counterproductive for winning broader support. Peaceful mass protests remain the recommended approach despite acknowledging Michelle Obama's high road strategy has limitations.

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Making Sense

#454 — More From Sam: Minnesota, Greenland, Iran, S**thole Countries, and More

January 21, 2026

17 min episode · 2 min read

Episode

17 min

Read time

2 min

Topics

Productivity, Relationships, Product & Tech Trends

AI-Generated Summary

Published Jan 22, 2026

Key Takeaways

✓ICE Operational Standards: Federal agents now deploy masked personnel using flashbang grenades on peaceful protesters, hauling citizens and immigrants from vehicles without probable cause, and using children as negotiation leverage—tactics Harris compares to policing under dictatorships rather than democratic norms that should trigger bipartisan alarm regardless of immigration policy preferences.
✓Government Misinformation Response: After the Renee Goode shooting, Trump, the vice president, and Kristi Noem immediately labeled her a terrorist attempting to kill agents despite video evidence from three angles contradicting this claim. No officials issued corrections or apologies, demonstrating contempt for accountability that Harris identifies as characteristic of authoritarian communication patterns.
✓Protest Strategy Effectiveness: Demonstrators should maintain civility and avoid oppressive tactics like confronting uninvolved citizens in cafes or blocking their daily activities. Historical Black Lives Matter struggle sessions that forced public compliance proved counterproductive for winning broader support. Peaceful mass protests remain the recommended approach despite acknowledging Michelle Obama's high road strategy has limitations.
✓Greenland Strategic Reality: The United States already maintains full military access to Greenland through Denmark, a NATO ally that lost more soldiers per capita than other partners in Iraq and Afghanistan. America operates bases there with complete rights for Arctic defense and mineral extraction, making Trump's acquisition push strategically unnecessary while risking NATO collapse.

What It Covers

Sam Harris examines the Trump administration's immigration enforcement tactics, focusing on ICE operations in Minnesota, the fatal shooting of Renee Goode, and the Greenland acquisition push. He argues these actions represent authoritarian governance patterns that should concern citizens across the political spectrum.

Key Questions Answered

•ICE Operational Standards: Federal agents now deploy masked personnel using flashbang grenades on peaceful protesters, hauling citizens and immigrants from vehicles without probable cause, and using children as negotiation leverage—tactics Harris compares to policing under dictatorships rather than democratic norms that should trigger bipartisan alarm regardless of immigration policy preferences.
•Government Misinformation Response: After the Renee Goode shooting, Trump, the vice president, and Kristi Noem immediately labeled her a terrorist attempting to kill agents despite video evidence from three angles contradicting this claim. No officials issued corrections or apologies, demonstrating contempt for accountability that Harris identifies as characteristic of authoritarian communication patterns.
•Protest Strategy Effectiveness: Demonstrators should maintain civility and avoid oppressive tactics like confronting uninvolved citizens in cafes or blocking their daily activities. Historical Black Lives Matter struggle sessions that forced public compliance proved counterproductive for winning broader support. Peaceful mass protests remain the recommended approach despite acknowledging Michelle Obama's high road strategy has limitations.
•Greenland Strategic Reality: The United States already maintains full military access to Greenland through Denmark, a NATO ally that lost more soldiers per capita than other partners in Iraq and Afghanistan. America operates bases there with complete rights for Arctic defense and mineral extraction, making Trump's acquisition push strategically unnecessary while risking NATO collapse.

Notable Moment

Harris highlights the absurdity of conservatives who spent years outraged over Twitter content moderation now defending federal agents throwing citizens onto pavement without cause. The same people radicalized by Ruby Ridge and Waco now rationalize violence that exceeds those incidents in scope and frequency across multiple cities.

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Episode Transcript

Welcome to the Making Sense podcast. This is Sam Harris. Just a note to say that if you're hearing this, you're not currently on our subscriber feed and will only be hearing the first part of this conversation. In order to access full episodes of the Making Sense podcast, you'll need to subscribe at samharris.org. We don't run ads on the podcast, and therefore it's made possible entirely through the support of our subscribers, so if you enjoy what we're doing here, please consider becoming one. Okay. We're back with another episode of More from Sam. Hi, Sam. Hey. Good to see you. Good to see you as well. Once again, I just wanna quickly remind everyone that you will be giving talks in a number of cities in North America this year. This week, we have LA, which is sold out. Congrats. That'll be fun. And then coming up, we have Dallas, Austin, Portland, Vancouver, Toronto, DC, and ending in New York City again. So if you wanna see Sam, now is the time to do it. While touring can be a lot of fun, it's also hard work. Not to mention, you have to stand up there for nearly two hours straight. Yeah. Yeah. The the talk keeps getting longer. I keep trying to cut it back, but events happen. So yeah. Yeah. I've learned to stop making any suggestions. I keep asking you to cut fifteen minutes, and then you add fifteen minutes. So I'm just gonna be quiet. But it's a great show, and it's a cool experience to see you deliver it live. And anyone wanting to buy tickets can head over to samharris.org now, and you can find all the info there. Okay. So many things happening that I don't even know where to begin. From Renee Goode, ICE in general, Greenland, tariffs on the EU for intervening in Greenland, the potential collapse of NATO, and I haven't even gotten to Iran and Venezuela and Maduro might as well have happened a year ago. And, it seems like That was just, like, two weeks ago. I mean, it's been an incredible two weeks. Yeah. Well, it seems like the Epstein files have successfully fallen out of the news again. And do we even have time to cover the latest round of anti Semitism? Plus, I wanna get your take on prediction markets and gambling apps, the latest on AI, and discuss Ben Shapiro's appearance on Gavin Newsom's podcast and anything you hope to discuss with Ben when he's on your podcast next month and more. Let's see how much of this we can get to today. So which emergency would you like to start with? How about, ICE and Renee Goode? Yeah. I guess we could I I I did speak about that on Scott Galloway's podcast at some length, so some people have seen that, I think. But, yeah, I'm happy to cover that. Yeah. Just why don't you give us a little …

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