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How Vercel thinks about Next.js

71 min episode · 2 min read
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Kurt Mackey,Tom Okino

Episode

71 min

Read time

2 min

Topics

Productivity, Design & UX, Artificial Intelligence

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Key Takeaways

  • React adoption strategy: Never pushed React aggressively on developers - always positioned as "here's something that solves problems for us, try it if interested" which led to organic, sustainable growth over forced adoption.
  • Framework-infrastructure coupling: Vercel builds Next.js and infrastructure together for cohesion, then creates loose coupling through build output APIs, allowing other frameworks like Svelte to run on Vercel's platform effectively.
  • Developer-user experience alignment: Great developer experience serves exceptional user experience - Facebook's Paper app died despite amazing UX because poor DX meant no developers wanted to contribute, proving both must work together.
  • Next.js caching simplification: New "use cache" API replaces complex configuration like "export const dynamic" and unstable cache APIs, providing simpler mental model for determining static versus dynamic content rendering.
  • In-function concurrency optimization: Vercel achieves 12-47% efficiency gains by sending multiple requests to same VM during idle time (disk IO, network calls, LLM requests), eliminating one-request-one-VM serverless limitation.

What It Covers

Tom Occhino, Vercel's Chief Product Officer and React co-creator, discusses React's origins at Facebook, Next.js evolution, framework-infrastructure integration, and Vercel's approach to open source sustainability.

Key Questions Answered

  • React adoption strategy: Never pushed React aggressively on developers - always positioned as "here's something that solves problems for us, try it if interested" which led to organic, sustainable growth over forced adoption.
  • Framework-infrastructure coupling: Vercel builds Next.js and infrastructure together for cohesion, then creates loose coupling through build output APIs, allowing other frameworks like Svelte to run on Vercel's platform effectively.
  • Developer-user experience alignment: Great developer experience serves exceptional user experience - Facebook's Paper app died despite amazing UX because poor DX meant no developers wanted to contribute, proving both must work together.
  • Next.js caching simplification: New "use cache" API replaces complex configuration like "export const dynamic" and unstable cache APIs, providing simpler mental model for determining static versus dynamic content rendering.
  • In-function concurrency optimization: Vercel achieves 12-47% efficiency gains by sending multiple requests to same VM during idle time (disk IO, network calls, LLM requests), eliminating one-request-one-VM serverless limitation.

Notable Moment

Occhino reveals his initial reaction when Jordan Walke showed him React was dismissive - "please go away, we have too many JavaScript frameworks" - before recognizing its potential days later.

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  • Tom Occhino, Vercel's Chief Product Officer and React co-creator, discusses React's origins at Facebook, Next.js evolution, framework-infrastructure integration, and Vercel's approach to open source sustainability

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