I spent $20,000 on Devin in a month. Here’s what I learned | Ryan Carson (solo founder)

If you're out there listening and you are doing engineering, you're doing your work locally, you really need to open your eyes. I think the future is pretty much a 100% cloud agents. I went all in. So much so, I spent $5,000 on Devon, and then I went up to $20,000 one month. You know, I think one of my big messages for today is that all of us have to uplevel our ability to manage agents. Like, that is our job. How do you effectively manage hundred, five hundred employees? This is the whole reason that organizations were built as pyramids. Like, humans can't scale and have a thousand directs. What is in your stack right now, and have you structured stuff to make you successful and build things effectively? So what I'm doing is figuring out how to manage, you know, throngs of agents. And in Devon, what what you're seeing is, is folders. And you'll notice p zero is the big stuff. The these are the the main things I need to move forward as the business, new features, p one, p two. So our priority zero, we got bugs. Let them work. Usually, give them a goal, and it's just such a crazy different world we live in now. Welcome back to How I AI. I have a super special guest, Ryan Carson, one of our earliest How I AI episodes, who is here to show us what has changed in the last twelve months in the age of coding agents. We're going to wax poetic about our favorite little AI intern, Devin, talk about all the ways you're underutilizing your coding agents, and give maybe the most anti AI episode of How I AI where we talk about where AI can't solve your problems, how you need to get out in front and actually talk to people, and how pen and paper still have a place in his stack. Let's get to it. This episode is brought to you by WorkOS. AI has already changed how we work. Tools are helping teams write better code, analyze customer data, and even handle support tickets automatically. But there's a catch. These tools only work well when they have deep access to company systems. Your Copilot needs to see your entire code base. Your chatbot needs to search across internal docs. And for enterprise buyers, that raises serious security concerns. That's why these apps face intense IT scrutiny from day one. To pass, they need secure authentication, access controls, audit logs, the whole suite of enterprise features. Building all that from scratch, it's a massive lift. That's where WorkOS comes in. WorkOS gives you drop in APIs for enterprise features so your app can become enterprise ready and scale up market faster. Think of it like Stripe for enterprise features. OpenAI, Perplexity, and Cursor are already using Work OS to move faster and meet enterprise demands. Join them and hundreds of other industry leaders at workos.com. Start …