In 5 to 10 Years, Using Weapons Without AI Will Be Considered Unethical | Yaroslav Azhnyuk, The Fourth Law

There's lots of conversation about AI and defense. What we should be really talking about, I think, is software and defense. We started with making hammers for pets, now we're making hammers for drones, we were throwing explosives to people who came to occupy our land. I think, like, within five to ten years, it will become unethical to use weapons without AI. The same way as it might become unethical to use cars without AI because those are less lethal and non AI weapons will be more likely to cause collateral damage, not less likely. But my only question to these companies is if you're so great and powerful, why aren't your asses helping us fight off the Russians? Why aren't they on the front lines? Okay. So so then you decided to get involved in in defense tech. And and and Actually, sir, a second company in defense as well, which makes cameras. So it makes thermal cameras, which are now some of the most popular thermal cameras in the military. They're used in interceptors. It was probably over a couple thousand chat heads down with with drones with with these cameras. And they're used in in just front line FBUs as well. Yeah. So it's it's funny. Like, there are some people from from Petcube who also helped to start this company. And because they they were doing cameras for the last fourteen years Yep. Just cameras for pets. Oh oh, that's right. Yeah. They have a lot of experience with that. So it's it's so ironic. Like yeah. Like, we started making cameras for pets, and now we're we're making We had cameras for drones. Cameras for for drones, and we were throwing throwing treats to dogs and now we're throwing explosives to people who came to occupy our land. So that's Faith Love's irony for sure. There seems to be a focus. You're you're doing counter drone technology. Yeah. I mean, with with the fourth law, we're we're working on a massively scalable autonomous systems for ROMs. And at this point, it involves the, like, frontline, the FPV drones, and then the interceptor drones, then some other drones. So The interceptor drones, are those for FPV or are those for Shahid or what's Yeah. That's that's a very good question. So probably, like, the most dynamic area that's had interceptors. But, obviously, when we're you're talking about interceptor drones as class that Yeah. That can apply to intercepting. Chat heads, ISR drones, reconnaissance zones, and then even smaller drones like FPV drones, so front line protection. So that's it's a very important question. Schmidt's also working on Yeah. Interceptors for Is is his at Swift is his company only looking at Shahid or are they doing the full rein? Well, I think from from the public sources that they've been telling that, I think there are, like, at least three initiatives. One is Shahadan interception. Another is frontline autonomous drone. And the the third one …