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Brené with Dan Pink on The Power of Regret

73 min episode · 2 min read
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Dan Pink

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73 min

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2 min

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Career Growth, Relationships, Leadership

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Key Takeaways

  • Inaction Over Action: People regret what they didn't do far more than what they did do, especially as they age. At age 20, action and inaction regrets are equal, but over time inaction regrets dominate—failures to take chances, speak up, or be bold haunt people most.
  • Four Core Regret Categories: Analysis of 16,000 regrets reveals four deep structures beneath surface domains like career or romance: boldness regrets (not taking chances), moral regrets (failures of kindness), foundation regrets (not building stability), and connection regrets (relationships that drifted). These patterns appear universally across cultures and life domains.
  • Processing Regret Effectively: Transform regret into growth through three steps: self-disclosure (converting emotions to concrete words defangs them), self-compassion (treating yourself with kindness rather than contempt), and self-distancing (extracting lessons by thinking about the situation rather than just feeling it). This prevents regret from sliding into shame.
  • Organizational Application: Organizations should explicitly connect key learnings to regrets rather than divorcing them. When teams separate lessons learned from the emotional context of regret, they only achieve surface-level learning instead of deep structural understanding that drives meaningful change and prevents repeated mistakes.
  • No Regrets Myth: Only five-year-olds (undeveloped prefrontal cortex), people with brain lesions, some Parkinson's and Huntington's patients, and sociopaths lack regrets. Claiming no regrets signals lack of reflection, not courage. Regret exists because it's evolutionarily adaptive—it teaches and clarifies what matters most in life.

What It Covers

Dan Pink discusses his research on regret, including findings from 4,489-person American Regret Project and 16,000-regret World Regret Survey across 105 countries, revealing four core regret categories and why looking backward moves us forward.

Key Questions Answered

  • Inaction Over Action: People regret what they didn't do far more than what they did do, especially as they age. At age 20, action and inaction regrets are equal, but over time inaction regrets dominate—failures to take chances, speak up, or be bold haunt people most.
  • Four Core Regret Categories: Analysis of 16,000 regrets reveals four deep structures beneath surface domains like career or romance: boldness regrets (not taking chances), moral regrets (failures of kindness), foundation regrets (not building stability), and connection regrets (relationships that drifted). These patterns appear universally across cultures and life domains.
  • Processing Regret Effectively: Transform regret into growth through three steps: self-disclosure (converting emotions to concrete words defangs them), self-compassion (treating yourself with kindness rather than contempt), and self-distancing (extracting lessons by thinking about the situation rather than just feeling it). This prevents regret from sliding into shame.
  • Organizational Application: Organizations should explicitly connect key learnings to regrets rather than divorcing them. When teams separate lessons learned from the emotional context of regret, they only achieve surface-level learning instead of deep structural understanding that drives meaningful change and prevents repeated mistakes.
  • No Regrets Myth: Only five-year-olds (undeveloped prefrontal cortex), people with brain lesions, some Parkinson's and Huntington's patients, and sociopaths lack regrets. Claiming no regrets signals lack of reflection, not courage. Regret exists because it's evolutionarily adaptive—it teaches and clarifies what matters most in life.

Notable Moment

Pink reveals his breakthrough came from reading 16,000 submitted regrets and recognizing identical sentence structures across different life domains—people regretting not asking someone out used the same language as those regretting not starting businesses, exposing regret's deep linguistic structure beyond surface categories.

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Episode Transcript

Hi, everyone. I'm Brene Brown, and this is Dare to Lead. Today on the podcast, I get to talk to one of my favorite researchers and writers, Dan Pink. In this episode, we're going to dig into one of my least favorite feelings or emotions, but let me see if this is true. Let me think about this for a second. Yeah. I actually think it's true. One of my very best teachers, regret. In his new book, The Power of Regret, How Looking Backward Moves Us Forward, Dan shares findings from two large studies on regret, and the data are fascinating. Let me give you one sneak peek that I think is so interesting. We have more regrets about the things we did not do versus the things that we did do. Oh my god. I think that's so powerful and so true. Failures of courage, failures of kindness, not taking risks. You know, both Dan and Regret are great teachers, great storytellers, and you won't regret listening. I had to do it. It's so bad. But okay. Barrett's laughing in the background. You know, it's one of these topics that when I talk about why I think it's important and how I believe that regret is a function of empathy, people get really crunchy. People are like, I I got no regrets. I live with no regrets. And I don't think that's a good idea. I don't think that's about living a courageous life. I think that's about living a life without reflection and without learning from stuff that makes you feel like shit sometimes. And so this is an incredible conversation. I'm glad you're here. I'm not even gonna do the regret joke again even though it's so easy and just so funny. No. Bear with shaking your head not funny. Glad you're here. Avoiding your unfinished home projects because you're not sure where to start? Thumbtack knows homes, so you don't have to. Don't know the difference between matte paint finish and satin, or what that clunking sound from your dryer is? With Thumbtack, you don't have to be a home pro. You just have to hire one. You can hire top rated pros, see price estimates, and read reviews all on the app. Download today. Support for this show comes from Odoo. Running a business is hard enough, so why make it harder with a dozen different apps that don't talk to each other? Introducing Odoo. It's the only business software you'll ever need. It's an all in one fully integrated platform that makes your work easier. CRM, accounting, inventory, e commerce and more. And the best part? Odoo replaces multiple expensive platforms for a fraction of the cost. That's why over thousands of businesses have made the switch. So why not you? Try Odoo for free at odoo.com. That's odoo.com. Before we jump in, let me tell you a little bit about Daniel h Pink. He is the number one New York Times best …

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    Dan Pink discusses his research on regret, including findings from 4,489-person American Regret Project and 16,000-regret World Regret Survey across 105 countries, revealing four core regret categories
  • by Dan Pink

    Dan Pink discusses his research on regret, including findings from 4,489-person American Regret Project and 16,000-regret World Regret Survey across 105 countries

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