Brené with Adam Grant and Simon Sinek on What's Happening at Work, Part 1 of 2

Hi, everyone. I'm Brene Brown, and this is Dare to Lead. And I've got such a fun episode for y'all, for us. Guess who's here? Simon Sinek and Adam Grant. I had this idea. I was like, the three of us need to just take turns being on each other's podcast, kind of no prep. What are you seeing? What's going on? What are you worried about? What are you calling bullshit on? Just, like, what's going on? And it turned out to be just a two part conversation that was so much fun filled with so many no. No. No. No. I don't think that's right. Oh, yeah. Maybe that is right. Oh, dang. I'm changing my mind. You are right. I'm glad you're here. They're just two back to back, really fun episodes, so much learning. I mean, I had my mind changed so much more than I change anyone's mind, which I was going in, like, I'm gonna talk them into thinking this is true because I think it's true. And I was like, oh, I think I'm wrong, which, of course, you know Adam. The power of knowing what you don't know. Adam was in his mind changing happy place. So welcome to Dare to Lead. Glad you're here. It's such a good conversation. Avoiding your unfinished home projects because you're not sure where to start? Thumbtack knows homes, so you don't have to. Don't know the difference between matte paint finish and satin, or what that clunking sound from your dryer is? With Thumbtack, you don't have to be a home pro. You just have to hire one. You can hire top rated pros, see price estimates, and read reviews all on the app. Download today. Support for this show comes from Odoo. Running a business is hard enough. So why make it harder with a dozen different apps that don't talk to each other? Introducing Odoo. It's the only business software you'll ever need. It's an all in one fully integrated platform that makes your work easier. CRM, accounting, inventory, e commerce and more. And the best part? Odoo replaces multiple expensive platforms for a fraction of the cost. That's why over thousands of businesses have made the switch. So why not you? Try Odoo for free at odoo.com. That's odoo.com. Before we get started, let me tell you a little bit about our friends that are on today. So Adam Grant is an organizational psychologist. He rethinks how people lead, work, and live. He's been Wharton's top rated professor for seven straight years, and his pioneering research has inspired people to rethink assumptions about motivation, generosity, and creativity. He is the number one New York Times best selling author of five books that have sold billions of copies, most recently. And, oh, I I don't like to pick a favorite, but, god, did I really love Think Again, The Power of Knowing What You Don't Know. Such a great book. His TED Talks …