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Dare to Lead with Brené Brown

Brené and Barrett on the Great Awkward

36 min episode · 2 min read

Episode

36 min

Read time

2 min

Topics

Career Growth, Health & Wellness, Remote Work

AI-Generated Summary

Key Takeaways

  • Remote Work Equity: Remote work created unexpected belonging benefits for distributed employees who previously felt excluded from headquarters culture. Organizations should conduct intentional surveys asking employees their ideal work scenarios and pilot arrangements with three-month and six-month feedback checkpoints before finalizing policies.
  • New Worker Onboarding: Recent graduates and new hires who started remotely face unique challenges learning unspoken organizational rules and culture without physical presence. Leaders must create explicit guidelines, assign dedicated support people, and recognize that spotting struggle through video calls requires different skills than in-person observation.
  • Creative Work Limitations: Strategic planning and creative content development suffer remotely compared to in-person collaboration. Eight-hour strategic sessions prove feasible in person but unsustainable on video calls beyond ninety minutes. Organizations requiring innovation should prioritize physical time together for these specific high-value activities rather than blanket policies.
  • FFT Framework Application: Apply Fucking First Times strategies to workplace returns by normalizing awkwardness, providing perspective that no one has done pandemic returns before, and reality-checking expectations. Create explicit guidelines covering acceptable questions, physical contact protocols, and organization-wide approved opt-outs for any uncomfortable interactions.

What It Covers

Brené Brown and Barrett Guillen discuss returning to physical workplaces after pandemic remote work, addressing challenges around hybrid models, employee belonging, mental health crisis, grief, and navigating awkward transitions with intentional communication strategies.

Key Questions Answered

  • Remote Work Equity: Remote work created unexpected belonging benefits for distributed employees who previously felt excluded from headquarters culture. Organizations should conduct intentional surveys asking employees their ideal work scenarios and pilot arrangements with three-month and six-month feedback checkpoints before finalizing policies.
  • New Worker Onboarding: Recent graduates and new hires who started remotely face unique challenges learning unspoken organizational rules and culture without physical presence. Leaders must create explicit guidelines, assign dedicated support people, and recognize that spotting struggle through video calls requires different skills than in-person observation.
  • Creative Work Limitations: Strategic planning and creative content development suffer remotely compared to in-person collaboration. Eight-hour strategic sessions prove feasible in person but unsustainable on video calls beyond ninety minutes. Organizations requiring innovation should prioritize physical time together for these specific high-value activities rather than blanket policies.
  • FFT Framework Application: Apply Fucking First Times strategies to workplace returns by normalizing awkwardness, providing perspective that no one has done pandemic returns before, and reality-checking expectations. Create explicit guidelines covering acceptable questions, physical contact protocols, and organization-wide approved opt-outs for any uncomfortable interactions.

Notable Moment

Brown reveals discovering that pandemic remote work actually increased belonging for non-headquarters employees, who previously felt excluded watching office workers gather together on video calls while they participated alone. This invisible inequity only became visible when everyone worked remotely simultaneously.

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Episode Transcript

Hi, everyone. I'm Brene Brown, and this is Dare to Lead. Welcome back, y'all. Welcome back, Barrett. Yay. Welcome back. Happy to be here. Alright. Brace yourself. I've been off for four weeks. This is the first time literally in my life. And by off, like, totally unreachable. Yeah. No. Off. Yeah. I even kinda felt weird when I was doing the out of office. I'm like, I'll be out for the next I actually put dot dot dot, wait for it, dot dot dot four weeks. Yeah. It's actually the first time in my life. Like, I got a job and a license. I did at, like, 14. I drove a 1970 Ford f one fifty, three on the tree, baby. Yeah. Like, I got a job. I wanted some Gloria Vanderbilt jeans. My yeah. Our our mom and dad were like, here are your Lee jeans. Yeah. Yeah. If you can't get those at TJ Maxx, you out. Yeah. Well, age difference. Oh. I was with TJ Maxx, not good. Yeah. And so I think this is the first time literally in my life that I've been off of work for four weeks. Well deserved. Thanks. It was good. It was coming out of my skin for the first couple of days, and then I was coming out of my skin coming back. Yeah. Being in the middle was it was hard. We had to shuffle just like everybody in the world, it seems like. So it was tough. But we're back, and we're here with Dare to Lead. And I want to talk about what I am calling what we're calling the great awkward. Yes. The return, oh, not so soon, but now go go. No. Not now. Not now. The great awkward, which is the return don't return to work. So stay with us. It's gonna be fun. And I'm gonna talk about some things I've learned and talk about some things I think we need to be really thoughtful about. We're glad you're here. Avoiding your unfinished home projects because you're not sure where to start? Thumbtack knows homes, so you don't have to. Don't know the difference between matte paint finish and satin, or what that clunking sound from your dryer is? With Thumbtack, you don't have to be a home pro. You just have to hire one. You can hire top rated pros, see price estimates, and read reviews all on the app. Download today. Support for this show comes from Odoo. Running a business is hard enough. So why make it harder with a dozen different apps that don't talk to each other? Introducing Odoo. It's the only business software you'll ever need. It's an all in one fully integrated platform that makes your work easier. CRM, accounting, inventory, e commerce and more. And the best part? Odoo replaces multiple expensive platforms for a fraction of the cost. That's why over thousands of businesses have made the switch. So why not you? …

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