767: Being Nice May Not Be Kind, with Graham Allcott
Episode
37 min
Read time
2 min
Topics
Productivity, Fundraising & VC, Leadership
AI-Generated Summary
Key Takeaways
- ✓Nice versus Kind Framework: Niceness lacks truth and involves telling people what they want to hear, while kindness combines truth with grace, telling people what they need to hear. Kindness requires both concern for self and concern for others, creating strength rather than weakness. Too much niceness without truth creates toxic environments where difficult conversations get avoided and poor performance continues unchecked.
- ✓Psychological Safety Chain: Kindness drives empathy, which builds one-to-one trust between individuals. Trust then creates psychological safety, a one-to-many experience where team members take interpersonal risks like contributing difficult ideas or raising concerns. Organizations with psychological safety show higher performance, innovation, creativity, and engagement levels. All behaviors that measure psychological safety are fundamentally kind acts like making people feel welcome.
- ✓Three V's Framework: Leaders must establish three clear expectations: Vision (what we're trying to achieve), Values (how we'll work together), and Value without the s (measurable contributions each person brings). The third V gets neglected most often, yet unclear measurement creates confusion and misalignment. Leaders who specify measurable value create motivation and clarity that drives team performance forward.
- ✓Personal Leadership Mantras: Effective leaders create short, memorable phrases that set team expectations and culture. One manager used "I don't care if you screw up as long as you own up and clear up," which gave permission to innovate while building ownership culture. Another focused on "bake fewer cakes but put cherries on them" to emphasize completion over quantity. These mantras stay memorable for years and carry emotional weight.
- ✓The Last Twenty Percent: Managers who ask for the last twenty percent of feedback create psychological safety by explicitly inviting the most uncomfortable truths. This phrase signals that leaders want to hear difficult opinions, not just easy observations. It shortcuts trust-building by demonstrating openness to criticism and creates environments where people share concerns that might otherwise stay hidden, preventing problems from festering.
What It Covers
Graham Allcott distinguishes between niceness and kindness in leadership, arguing they are near opposites. Nice means telling people what they want to hear, while kind means telling them what they need to hear with truth and grace. Kindness drives psychological safety, trust, and performance when leaders combine concern for others with concern for self.
Key Questions Answered
- •Nice versus Kind Framework: Niceness lacks truth and involves telling people what they want to hear, while kindness combines truth with grace, telling people what they need to hear. Kindness requires both concern for self and concern for others, creating strength rather than weakness. Too much niceness without truth creates toxic environments where difficult conversations get avoided and poor performance continues unchecked.
- •Psychological Safety Chain: Kindness drives empathy, which builds one-to-one trust between individuals. Trust then creates psychological safety, a one-to-many experience where team members take interpersonal risks like contributing difficult ideas or raising concerns. Organizations with psychological safety show higher performance, innovation, creativity, and engagement levels. All behaviors that measure psychological safety are fundamentally kind acts like making people feel welcome.
- •Three V's Framework: Leaders must establish three clear expectations: Vision (what we're trying to achieve), Values (how we'll work together), and Value without the s (measurable contributions each person brings). The third V gets neglected most often, yet unclear measurement creates confusion and misalignment. Leaders who specify measurable value create motivation and clarity that drives team performance forward.
- •Personal Leadership Mantras: Effective leaders create short, memorable phrases that set team expectations and culture. One manager used "I don't care if you screw up as long as you own up and clear up," which gave permission to innovate while building ownership culture. Another focused on "bake fewer cakes but put cherries on them" to emphasize completion over quantity. These mantras stay memorable for years and carry emotional weight.
- •The Last Twenty Percent: Managers who ask for the last twenty percent of feedback create psychological safety by explicitly inviting the most uncomfortable truths. This phrase signals that leaders want to hear difficult opinions, not just easy observations. It shortcuts trust-building by demonstrating openness to criticism and creates environments where people share concerns that might otherwise stay hidden, preventing problems from festering.
Notable Moment
General Stanley McChrystal describes being fired by President Barack Obama as potentially the worst professional day of his career, yet he remains grateful for how Obama handled it. The president made the conversation as dignified as possible despite delivering devastating news, demonstrating how truth delivered with grace creates better outcomes even in the most difficult situations.
Episode Transcript
Nice means telling people what they want to hear. Kind means telling them what they need to hear. The best leaders are kind. In this episode, how we can do a better job of following through. This is Coaching for Leaders episode seven sixty seven. Produced by Innovate Learning, maximizing human potential. Greetings to you from Orange County, California. This is Coaching for Leaders, and I'm your host, Dave Stachowiak. Leaders aren't born, they're made. And this weekly show helps you discover leadership wisdom through insightful conversations. So many folks who are part of our listening community have the value of kindness, on their hearts and also in wanting to bring kindness into the workplace in such genuine and effective ways. And today, a conversation on how we can do that better and also some of the things that sometimes we think are kind, but aren't necessarily as kind as we would like them to be. And I am so glad to welcome today Graham Alcott. He is a author, speaker, entrepreneur, and the founder of Think Productive, a leading provider of training and consultancy. He is the author of multiple books, including the bestseller, How to be a Productivity Ninja, and his latest book, Kind, the quiet power of kindness at work. Graham, so glad to have you here. Lovely to be here. Thank you, Dave. Graham, I grew up in the Midwest of The United States, a place that is known for being very nice. People are nice to each other in everyday interactions, neighbors, formal, informal, you name it. And as a result of that and many other factors, I think for a long time in my life, I saw the words nice and kind as very much synonyms. And I think that's why a couple of lines in your book landed with me so profoundly. You write, kindness gets a bad press because sometimes it's confused with just being nice. Kind and nice are not the same. In fact, there's a world of difference between nice and kind. I would go as far to say that they're closer to being opposites than they are to being the same. I was thinking about what you wrote and the word opposite. Could you share a bit more of how you think about these words and what's so really different about them? Yeah. So let's just back up a tiny bit because I think the the the words matter, and the reason they matter is because often, when I'm talking to people about kindness at work, people start to say, well, kindness is weakness. And what I say to them is, no. Niceness can be weakness, but kindness is strength. And so when I think about the difference between nice and kind, the reason I say that they're almost opposite is one of them contains a really important component, which is truth, and the other one doesn't. Mhmm. So kindness is about truth and grace, and niceness doesn't contain …
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