Podcast companies losing money?

This podcast is hosted by transistor.fm. Hey, everyone. Welcome to Build Your SaaS. This is the behind the scenes story of building a web app in 2021. I'm John Buda, a software engineer. And I'm Justin Jackson. I do product transistor.fm. Alright. 2021. Still no flying cars. Still no flying cars. Not a lot's changed really since 2020. Yeah. I mean, things just kind of roll over. But how are you feeling? How are you feeling about the new year? Alright. Yeah. Okay. I mean, start off cautiously optimistic. Started off pretty rough. Yeah. We're not quite there. Not quite yet there yet. I think I'll celebrate a little more on January 20. But Yeah. Yeah. That's actually the Even even then, who knows? Somebody was laughing because I was showing them my calendar, and the only event you and I have on the calendar is, inauguration day. John is off. Yeah. So that, you know, that could be a day for some some some to imbibe, you know, some recreational imbibing. Yeah. I'm I'm feeling good. A a lot of people get down on the New Year, and I find it helpful to be able to close the door on the past and say, okay. Well, we have to be able to put a a a marker in somewhere. And so to be able to put a marker in and say, okay. That was last year. There's the new year, and it it does just naturally help me to be hopeful. So, I'm I'm feeling pretty energized. I'm also pretty excited about the revenue milestone that we crossed at the year at the 2020. Yeah. That was huge. Just barely before the end of the year. Yeah. Huge milestone for us that we probably thought would take years and years to get to. Yeah. Who yes. It yeah. Really and and Yeah. That Yeah. With so many you know, there there were a lot of businesses that that really suffered in 2020. So we just, I think we're both very grateful that, Transistor was able to continue to grow. I remember at the beginning, like, this time last year or a little bit later, but this time last year, you and I were having a call saying, well, we might lose 50% of our revenue. And are we prepared for that? Right. So Yeah. It's, it's yeah. There's a lot to be excited about in that respect. I think it gives us a lot of flexibility for what to do next Yeah. In this in this whole year and especially in light of all these announcements of podcasting apps and companies being sold or shutting down because they've loop been losing, like, millions of dollars a year. Yeah. I just I it really makes me glad that we didn't take investment and that Mhmm. We're still a small company and don't have a huge overhead. Because, like, I just I like, was it PocketCasts Yep. Is up for sale, …