Bootstrapping in France (Baptiste Jamin from Crisp)
Episode
66 min
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2 min
Topics
Career Growth, Productivity, Startups
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Key Takeaways
- ✓Minimalist launch strategy: Crisp launched with password-protected homepage and just text messaging, no file uploads or emojis. A friend cold-emailed 10 companies about broken contact forms, generating initial users. Product Hunt feature in 2015 brought 5,000 users who spread word-of-mouth organically.
- ✓Pricing as competitive moat: Unlimited plan pricing removes decision-making friction for SMBs who lack VC funding to absorb price increases. This strategy generates massive word-of-mouth because customers recommend affordable, high-quality software. Created PDF sales decks enabling employees to convince bosses internally without requiring demos or trials.
- ✓Retention before acquisition: Focused entirely on making first 10 users successful rather than pursuing growth metrics. Achieved 50% next-day retention by optimizing onboarding for customers who needed solutions immediately, not in six months. Product-led growth worked because users had urgent job-to-be-done requiring same-day software selection.
- ✓Global-first localization: Translated chat widget into 60-plus languages through user contributions, not internal resources. Localization unlocked unexpected markets like Finland, where one popular blogger created market leadership within months. Arabic and Hebrew right-to-left support differentiated from competitors ignoring these markets completely.
- ✓T-shaped hiring philosophy: Hired four engineers total by seeking entrepreneurial generalists with deep expertise in one area plus broad capabilities across design, support, and marketing. Avoided scaling team size because adding developers to solve problems creates coordination overhead through meetings and decision-making rather than accelerating shipping velocity.
What It Covers
Baptiste Jamin explains how Crisp bootstrapped to profitability serving 300,000 brands with customer support software, competing against Zendesk and Intercom through aggressive pricing, product-led growth, and global localization from their base in France.
Key Questions Answered
- •Minimalist launch strategy: Crisp launched with password-protected homepage and just text messaging, no file uploads or emojis. A friend cold-emailed 10 companies about broken contact forms, generating initial users. Product Hunt feature in 2015 brought 5,000 users who spread word-of-mouth organically.
- •Pricing as competitive moat: Unlimited plan pricing removes decision-making friction for SMBs who lack VC funding to absorb price increases. This strategy generates massive word-of-mouth because customers recommend affordable, high-quality software. Created PDF sales decks enabling employees to convince bosses internally without requiring demos or trials.
- •Retention before acquisition: Focused entirely on making first 10 users successful rather than pursuing growth metrics. Achieved 50% next-day retention by optimizing onboarding for customers who needed solutions immediately, not in six months. Product-led growth worked because users had urgent job-to-be-done requiring same-day software selection.
- •Global-first localization: Translated chat widget into 60-plus languages through user contributions, not internal resources. Localization unlocked unexpected markets like Finland, where one popular blogger created market leadership within months. Arabic and Hebrew right-to-left support differentiated from competitors ignoring these markets completely.
- •T-shaped hiring philosophy: Hired four engineers total by seeking entrepreneurial generalists with deep expertise in one area plus broad capabilities across design, support, and marketing. Avoided scaling team size because adding developers to solve problems creates coordination overhead through meetings and decision-making rather than accelerating shipping velocity.
Notable Moment
During COVID-19 pandemic, churches adopted Crisp for remote confessions when physical locations closed. Priests used the live chat and video features to hear confessions digitally, demonstrating how mainstream non-tech businesses discovered customer messaging tools during lockdowns for unexpected use cases.
Episode Transcript
This podcast is hosted by Transistor. Fm. Thank you very much. Thank you, thanks a lot. Nice. Nice. Shall we continue in French? Yeah. Your your French is very good. It's it is still, like, 10 or, like, 100 times better than, all the, all the, the American people watching Emily in Paris on Netflix and saying, Oh, yeah. It's how we say it. How we say it? Yeah. 100 times better than you can speak French. I'm glad. I'm glad I got a little chance. Hey. Welcome to build your SaaS. This is the behind the scenes story of building web apps in 2022, bootstrapping, startups, building your own thing. I'm Justin Jackson, one of the cofounders of transistor.fm. Today on the show, I have Baptiste Jamet, who is the cofounder of Krisp, krisp.im, if you wanna check it out. They do live chat, customer support, ticket software, help desk software. They compete with massive companies, Zendesk, HelpScout, Intercom. And they're seriously one of the most impressive product companies I've come across. It the product itself is super high quality, but the cost to customers, the price is really affordable. We switched to them from Kayako, and we just can't believe how good it is. So I think you're gonna get a ton out of this conversation. It's one of a lot of people, you know, might not know Baptiste or might not know have heard of Crisp, but they are seriously impressive in terms of how profitable they are, how many customers they serve, and what they've been able to achieve. They're located in Nantes, France. Yeah. Let's get into this conversation. It's great. So Krisp is basic we use it as customer support messaging. You have a live chat widget, and then it also, has an email component so you can email support at transistor. And it goes into the live chat interface, and we can respond to those emails in the same interface. And then it has a ton more. But how did it get started? You did you and your cofounder know each other before? What was the kind of beginning of Crisp? Yeah. So Basically, before doing Krisp, we did, like, several side projects. I mean, I wouldn't say start ups, but really side projects. He and I, we started coding, like, when we were teenagers. I started coding when I was 12, doing some video games, and he started coding when he was 16. And he did, like, a messaging platform. It was like an open source Facebook, basically. And so we did that when we were teenagers, then we did some projects that worked, some other failed. And, and basically, we met each other at in the in computer science school. We were apprentice, so we worked in big French companies. I used to work at Orange, which is the biggest French ISP, and, he used to work at Ericsson, telecom company. And, basically, we were we got bored of our jobs. …
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