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How Dave Went from Broke, Living in Grandma’s Basement to Rental Millionaire

45 min episode · 2 min read

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45 min

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2 min

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Productivity, Personal Finance, Relationships

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Key Takeaways

  • Zero-capital entry strategy: Dave's first deal required $26,000 he didn't have, so he borrowed his share of the down payment from a partner at 7% interest, then offset that cost by managing the four-unit property for 10% of collected rents. This structure generated immediate monthly income while building equity without requiring personal savings upfront.
  • Mislabeled MLS listings create on-market deals: Dave's second property was listed as a two-unit but contained a fully permitted, recently renovated third apartment behind an unmarked door. Sellers and agents routinely miscategorize bedroom counts, square footage, and unit counts, meaning on-market deals can still offer below-market value when buyers physically inspect beyond the listing description.
  • Path-of-progress research using analog sources: To identify where to buy in Denver, Dave attended city planning meetings, studied light rail route renderings, and mapped which blocks fell within every proposed station option. He then cold-called one owner on the best-positioned street and purchased the property roughly $70,000–$80,000 below comparable sales.
  • Forced out-of-state investing builds systems backyard investors lack: Moving to Amsterdam required Dave to hire professional property management and stop self-managing ten-plus units. This transition revealed that out-of-state investors structurally build automated businesses from day one, while local investors often delay systemization until they're forced to, limiting scalability and eventual passive income potential.
  • Thirds portfolio allocation for long-term stability: Dave currently divides net worth into three equal segments: stock market index exposure, directly owned rental properties managed by third parties, and passive vehicles including multifamily syndications and private credit lending funds. Private lending funds specifically generate consistent cash flow with lower operational involvement than active rentals.

What It Covers

BiggerPockets co-host Dave Meyer traces his sixteen-year real estate journey from waiting tables with zero savings in 2009 to building a diversified rental portfolio across Denver and the Midwest, covering his first four-unit purchase, multiple house hacks, off-market cold calling, and eventual transition to passive investing after relocating to Amsterdam.

Key Questions Answered

  • Zero-capital entry strategy: Dave's first deal required $26,000 he didn't have, so he borrowed his share of the down payment from a partner at 7% interest, then offset that cost by managing the four-unit property for 10% of collected rents. This structure generated immediate monthly income while building equity without requiring personal savings upfront.
  • Mislabeled MLS listings create on-market deals: Dave's second property was listed as a two-unit but contained a fully permitted, recently renovated third apartment behind an unmarked door. Sellers and agents routinely miscategorize bedroom counts, square footage, and unit counts, meaning on-market deals can still offer below-market value when buyers physically inspect beyond the listing description.
  • Path-of-progress research using analog sources: To identify where to buy in Denver, Dave attended city planning meetings, studied light rail route renderings, and mapped which blocks fell within every proposed station option. He then cold-called one owner on the best-positioned street and purchased the property roughly $70,000–$80,000 below comparable sales.
  • Forced out-of-state investing builds systems backyard investors lack: Moving to Amsterdam required Dave to hire professional property management and stop self-managing ten-plus units. This transition revealed that out-of-state investors structurally build automated businesses from day one, while local investors often delay systemization until they're forced to, limiting scalability and eventual passive income potential.
  • Thirds portfolio allocation for long-term stability: Dave currently divides net worth into three equal segments: stock market index exposure, directly owned rental properties managed by third parties, and passive vehicles including multifamily syndications and private credit lending funds. Private lending funds specifically generate consistent cash flow with lower operational involvement than active rentals.

Notable Moment

After a dispute over a security deposit with long-term tenants he considered friends, Dave assumed the relationship was permanently damaged. Eight years later, the same tenant walked into his Amsterdam apartment party through a mutual friend and apologized directly, resolving the conflict across two continents and nearly a decade.

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Episode Transcript

Today's guest started with literally $0 in the bank, waited tables, and secretly moved into a 50 five plus retirement community to save money. I am not kidding. He bought his first property in 2010 with a loan from a partner because he couldn't afford his share of the down payment. Now sixteen years later, he's achieved financial freedom with a rock solid rental portfolio built entirely on his own terms. Wait, is this story sounding a little bit familiar? To me, it sounds a little familiar to me. Yes. What's going on everybody? Henry Washington here, cohost of the Bigger Pockets podcast. We bring you an investor story every Monday on the show. So you might be wondering why there's no guest here today, and that's because Dave Meyer is our guest. And we are going to be hearing about his investor story from 2010 to today. Dave has told pieces of the story before, but not in a few years and definitely not to me. And since I am the new co host, that's what we're gonna do here today. We're gonna go full into this journey. We'll talk about the hidden unit he found on a mislabeled MLS listing, his 100% success rate on cold calling, which is impressive, and how moving to Amsterdam forced him to become a much better investor. And Dave, I've also got a couple surprise questions for you that you may not see coming. Okay. Well, I am coming prepared to answer any and all questions you have for me. Well, let's get started. And let's start off this episode the same way we start off every investor story. And that's by asking, Dave, what were you doing when you first decided to get into real estate? I got started in real estate about six months after I graduated college. I had moved from New York to Denver, sort of just on a whim to ski and wound up waiting table. Yeah. I mean, that's what I wanted to do. You moved for vibes. But, I mean, I was looking for a job, but it was 2009. It was, at that point, the worst job market since the Great Depression. I I wound up waiting tables, but I was, you know, looking for a sort of corporate job. But I had always wanted to do something entrepreneurial throughout college, even in high school, even in middle school. I had started small businesses. I was always trying to make money for myself. And so I was open to the idea and looking for side hustles, as they're now called. And a friend of mine introduced me to real estate, and that's how I got into it. So, like, similarly for me, my father was an entrepreneur. Now he never talks to me about entrepreneurship. Like, he wanted me to go the normal corporate route, get a job, climb the ladder, and all those things. But he always had a side hustle or a …

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