Reached FI at 60: How to Switch from Accumulation to Drawdown with Bill Yount
Episode
53 min
Read time
2 min
Topics
Personal Finance, Investing, Fundraising & VC
AI-Generated Summary
Key Takeaways
- ✓Late-Start Acceleration: Increased savings rate from single digits to 40% by downsizing house, switching to used cars, and having spouse return to full-time work—reaching FI in ten years despite starting at age 52.
- ✓Risk Parity Portfolio: Shifted from 85/15 stocks/bonds three-fund portfolio to six-fund risk parity allocation (44% equities, 30% long-term treasuries, 11% gold, 11% managed futures, 3% cash) to reduce drawdowns below 20% versus 30-50% in traditional portfolios.
- ✓Flat-Fee Advisory: Found financial planner charging $8,400 annually for comprehensive planning and investment management versus typical 1% AUM fee that would cost $50,000 yearly on $5 million portfolio—used AI prompts to locate risk parity specialists.
- ✓Generational Wealth Transfer: Plans tax-optimized living giving by maxing out adult children's Roth IRAs ($7,500) and HSAs ($4,400) annually within $19,000 gift tax exemption, enabling compound growth during their twenties without impacting their cash flow.
What It Covers
Bill Yount transitions from accumulation to drawdown after reaching financial independence at 60 following a ten-year journey. He discusses portfolio restructuring, withdrawal strategies, and helping adult children build wealth.
Key Questions Answered
- •Late-Start Acceleration: Increased savings rate from single digits to 40% by downsizing house, switching to used cars, and having spouse return to full-time work—reaching FI in ten years despite starting at age 52.
- •Risk Parity Portfolio: Shifted from 85/15 stocks/bonds three-fund portfolio to six-fund risk parity allocation (44% equities, 30% long-term treasuries, 11% gold, 11% managed futures, 3% cash) to reduce drawdowns below 20% versus 30-50% in traditional portfolios.
- •Flat-Fee Advisory: Found financial planner charging $8,400 annually for comprehensive planning and investment management versus typical 1% AUM fee that would cost $50,000 yearly on $5 million portfolio—used AI prompts to locate risk parity specialists.
- •Generational Wealth Transfer: Plans tax-optimized living giving by maxing out adult children's Roth IRAs ($7,500) and HSAs ($4,400) annually within $19,000 gift tax exemption, enabling compound growth during their twenties without impacting their cash flow.
Notable Moment
Bill canceled $2,000,000 life insurance and disability policies after reaching FI, saving $900 monthly—more than the $700 monthly cost of his financial adviser, effectively swapping insurance premiums for professional portfolio management and cognitive decline protection.
Episode Transcript
Bill Yount just did it. After a ten year journey to catch up to five, he ran the numbers and discovered he'd made it. Now he's adjusting his portfolio to preserve wealth instead of building it. So how is Bill going to draw down? That's what we'll be talking about today. Hello. Hello. Hello. And welcome to the Bigger Pockets Money podcast. My name is Mindy Jensen. And with me as always is my already caught up to five cohost, Scott Trench. Indie, that intro was fiery. I'm so excited to have Bill on from catching up Defy. Once again, we are gonna discuss the moment he found out he achieved financial independence. We're gonna discuss his decumulation strategy. We're gonna talk about the comprehensive financial plan that he's built and the way he found his planner who manages his assets, but does not charge an assets under management fee, which we are big fans of avoiding, here at BiggerPockets Money, that a assets under management fee. So super excited for this discussion. Bill, welcome to BiggerPockets Money. Scott, Mindy, as always, it's great to talk to you. Yeah. It's weird being caught up to five. I've been catching up to five for nine years, and I'm not sure what to do with it now. For those who are unfamiliar, Bill's journey is as a doctor catching up to financial independence. And I think you realized, Bill in your fifties, that you are not on track to have a comfortable retirement the way things were going and made a sharp pivot around those eight or nine years ago to get to where you're at today, you did have that higher income and also the higher spending that goes along with being a doctor. And I'm excited now to hear about the transition into financial independence. So can you tell us a little bit about what happened in the last maybe year or so when you kind of learned that you were financially independent? Yeah. Scott, you're right. In 2016 or so, when I was around 52, I kinda woke up to we're not ready. And over the last eight or nine years, my wife and I have been working very hard to get to FI, and I didn't think it was gonna come for the next two or three years. But for my sixtieth birthday, which was just recently, I promised myself a retirement readiness checkup with a financial adviser. Yes. I am a trader to the DIY movement. I decided to engage with a fee only, flat fee, advice only planner to see, hey. Where am I? Because I'm not a spreadsheet guy, and I'm not as good at drilling down on the numbers, and I wanted a second opinion on, okay. How much longer do I have to go? Or am I there? Or where do we stand in this Fogify? And lo and behold, after a meeting or two and inputting our data and expenses from Monarch, …
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